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LIGO and Virgo observatories jointly detect black hole collision [Gravitational Waves]
National Science Foundation ^ | September 27, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 09/27/2017 10:32:15 AM PDT by C19fan

In August, detectors on two continents recorded gravitational wave signals from a pair of black holes colliding. This discovery, announced today, is the first observation of gravitational waves by three different detectors, marking a new era of greater insights and improved localization of cosmic events now available through globally networked gravitational-wave observatories.

The collision was observed Aug. 14 at 10:30:43 a.m. Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) using the two National Science Foundation (NSF)-funded Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) detectors located in Livingston, Louisiana, and Hanford, Washington, and the Virgo detector, funded by CNRS and INFN and located near Pisa, Italy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nsf.gov ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: black; blackhole; gravity; stars
In an era of exciting discoveries detecting gravity waves; Einstein you magnificent ****ard. Revolutionize astronomy as much as instruments capturing light outside the visible spectrum.

that means about three solar masses were converted into gravitational-wave energy during the coalescence.

E = MC^2 means three solar masses = mind boggling amount of energy.

1 posted on 09/27/2017 10:32:15 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Serious question here.

Gravity is a force, yes? It has waves. I understand the constant force of gravity as it relates to mass for conclusive and repeatable experiments and observations in our solar system.

But to what extent can we really be sure gravity is a constant throughout the universe? Is it reasonable to theorize that gravity is different (as it relates to specific mass) in different parts (older or newer) of the universe (assuming expansion)? Is gravity considered energy? Then while it cannot be lost or gained, is it possible that it can be distributed differently across different mediums unrelated to mass?

How does light (photons) affect gravity? Gravity can affect light, so wouldn’t it be safe to assume that something as benign as light can affect gravity? Then what else can affect gravity?

Asking for a friend?


2 posted on 09/27/2017 10:39:26 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: C19fan

I love the astronomy news. Thank you!


3 posted on 09/27/2017 10:39:40 AM PDT by BurrOh (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~Orwell)
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To: C19fan

If we just detected it, when did it actually occur ?


4 posted on 09/27/2017 10:40:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Tenacious 1

One of the assumptions are the laws of physics are the same across time and space. Although there are people working on what is called Modified Newtonian Dynamics that claim the gravitational constant itself can change.


5 posted on 09/27/2017 10:41:27 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: UCANSEE2

A billion years ago. Gravity waves propagate at the speed of light.


6 posted on 09/27/2017 10:42:24 AM PDT by C19fan
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Although there are people working on what is called Modified Newtonian Dynamics that claim the gravitational constant itself can change.

I think this is exactly what I was wondering. If the gravitational constant were not so constant, a great many things could be better explained (Black Holes, Big Bang, Neutron Star masses, etc.)

But it really screws a lot of thing up too. I have also wondered what makes us so sure the speed of light is constant throughout time and space?

7 posted on 09/27/2017 10:46:31 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: C19fan

What was the speed of light back then? What speed do gravity waves travel at today? What has changed?


8 posted on 09/27/2017 10:48:21 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: C19fan

The article says 1.8 billion light years in one spot and 1 billion in another. Either way, it’s been a while.


9 posted on 09/27/2017 10:50:06 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Tenacious 1

Gravity is one of the four fundamental forces (the others being electromagnetic, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear forces). Cosmologists are reasonably sure gravity is the same throughout the universe, otherwise other parts of the universe would look very different, since gravity is the dominant shaping force of it. But we see that the universe on the largest visible scale is isotropic and homogeneous.

Gravity affects light because according to General Relativity it’s a curvature in space-time. Light follows that curvature as is propagates. So does matter, hence things fall. Gravity itself is not affected by other forces, however. Light only represents energy transferred by the electromagnetic force. The photon is its force carrier, while gravity (hypothetically) has the graviton as its force carrier.


10 posted on 09/27/2017 10:57:44 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Einstein you magnificent ****ard.

Even though Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves in 1916, it is less well-known that he co-wrote a paper with Nathan Rosen in 1936 in which they argued (incorrectly) that gravitational waves can not exist. The paper was rejected by the Physical Review.
11 posted on 09/27/2017 11:02:53 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Tenacious 1

Enough with the negative waves man!


12 posted on 09/27/2017 11:05:44 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Thank you for that explanation. It is informative and simple.

Now, what about the speed of light as a constant? LOL?


13 posted on 09/27/2017 11:31:23 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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"Now, what about the speed of light as a constant?"

The basic premise behind Special Relativity. Space and time are relative depending on the reference frame of the observer, allowing the speed of light to be absolute; a constant.
14 posted on 09/28/2017 12:08:58 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Tenacious 1

Gravity is a force, yes?

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Gravity is actually the curvature of spacetime. Technically it’s not the same as a force, but it’s still called that, even within science.


15 posted on 10/02/2017 6:36:05 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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