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Physicists find we’re not living in a computer simulation
Cosmos Magazine ^ | October 2, 2017 | Andrew Masterson

Posted on 10/04/2017 5:12:54 AM PDT by C19fan

Just in case it’s been weighing on your mind, you can relax now. A team of theoretical physicists from Oxford University in the UK has shown that life and reality cannot be merely simulations generated by a massive extraterrestrial computer.

The finding – an unexpectedly definite one – arose from the discovery of a novel link between gravitational anomalies and computational complexity.

(Excerpt) Read more at cosmosmagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: computer; quantum; simulation
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That is a relief. If life was a computer simulation I would complain to the creators how come I don't have a harem of women at my feet. This sounds like a version of the P vs. NP problem.
1 posted on 10/04/2017 5:12:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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Physicists find we’re not living in a computer simulation

At least according to the output of the vast computer simulation...

2 posted on 10/04/2017 5:20:52 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Dump Flake)
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To: C19fan

Stunning news! Who knew?


3 posted on 10/04/2017 5:25:56 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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To: C19fan

I have just one question that will clarify everything....

red pill or blue pill.


4 posted on 10/04/2017 5:26:34 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: C19fan
All they needed to do is read the first chapters of John and Romans.

How do you computer simulate prophesies over thousands of years by over 40 different authors pointing to one man, having an extraordinary entrance into this world; lives, ministers and teaches with unheard of authority, breaks natural law by healing multiple times in plain view, is arrested for no reason and sent to a kangaroo court, is murdered, and resurrects and is seen again by hundreds, just as He and prophets predicted? And he did it for our benefit, in spite of us not having the capacity to earn it: by GRACE.

That is reality. Everything else is escapism.

5 posted on 10/04/2017 5:34:30 AM PDT by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: House Atreides

Descartes figured it out a long time ago. I think therefore I must be.


6 posted on 10/04/2017 5:37:51 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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A pointless article. An engineer alive in 1900 would think crossing the ocean in 3 hours is impossible too. There are potential technologies we can't even imagine right now.
7 posted on 10/04/2017 5:42:19 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: C19fan

They’ve demonstrated the impracticality of a physical computer, not a metaphysical one. Infinity is a big number.


8 posted on 10/04/2017 5:44:46 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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The idea of living in a computer simulation, with no body, seems like an update of the writing of Rene Descartes. He considered something like that, then rejected it.

Mainstream atheism presents the opposite, that we are body only - no mind, self, soul, etc. An out-of-body experience would be impossible as there is nothing to you but your body.

So that is the range we are dealing with. :)


9 posted on 10/04/2017 5:45:15 AM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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The existence of a physical world of any sort begs for an explanation. To ignore it seems to me to a show a profound lack of curiosity or imagination, or just a profound stubbornness.


10 posted on 10/04/2017 5:59:59 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Nonsense. This might be a real good simulation that does all the gravitational things just right, and throws in a neutrino or two. Hoping that next time the simulation program is started up, they delete the part about m*slims.


11 posted on 10/04/2017 6:02:14 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: C19fan

Atoms are mostly empty space, material reality is to an extent an illusion. Leave it up to modern science that has come to believe itself innately opposed to diety, to theorize that it’s some great cosmic comuputer, no doubt self-organized over trillions of years.


12 posted on 10/04/2017 6:03:45 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: C19fan

This is what they want you to believe.


13 posted on 10/04/2017 6:04:18 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: precisionshootist
Descartes figured it out a long time ago. I think therefore I must be.

I think I think, therefore I'm an agnostic...

14 posted on 10/04/2017 6:09:29 AM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Their theory is interesting. If you discount God and purpose in creation (I don’t), then consider the odds of actually being alive during this portion of civilization (based on the number of people that have been alive, are alive and will be alive in the future, it is very unlikely that we are actually living right now. They don’t claim that the computer self organized but rather is created by our descendants to recreate earlier times.

It is an interesting though experiment.


15 posted on 10/04/2017 6:17:11 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: varyouga
An engineer alive in 1900 would think crossing the ocean in 3 hours is impossible too

The hubris of "scientists" is amazing to behold.

That must have been built into the computer hologram of the universe. :-)
16 posted on 10/04/2017 6:17:16 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Salvavida

All you left out was the statistical impossibility that the presence of life is random and the mike drop lol.


17 posted on 10/04/2017 6:21:07 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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Actually I am the only true living human the rest of you and all I encounter are clever holographic projections coupled with mind control applied by by alien captors from planet Talks 4 after they destroyed my planet and I was the soul survivor

I learned this watching Star Trek. And I am still waiting for them to bring me a mate.

Hurry up guys!!!


18 posted on 10/04/2017 6:22:12 AM PDT by Gasshog (When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout!)
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I hate to rain on their parade but if someone had computers capable of such a simulation they would be aware that some clock cycle their simulations might be studying their simulated universe. They could have included code to fake evidence to falsify the simulation theory. They could also patch the code if it became necessary.

Moreover, they don’t have to simulate the Hall effect if what they are after is a study of behavior, they only have to specify the behavior of the Hall effect and specify the behavioral parameters of simulated research tools.

Finally, as anyone who is old enough may remember there were CPUs that in addition to normal operation could be make to operate one tick of the clock at a time (useful for debugging programs), the programs stopping between clock pulses though still in operation. Is there any reason a sufficiently advanced hologram couldn’t do the same?


19 posted on 10/04/2017 6:24:09 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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>>living in a computer simulation
 
 
I Think, Therefore it's interesting how fashionably popular delusion has become...
 
psy·cho·sis
sīˈkōsəs/
noun
  1. a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
  2.  
  3. [The Architects of Western Decline:
  4. A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]


"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)

 



20 posted on 10/04/2017 6:28:55 AM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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