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My Proposal for Federal Housing Voucher Caps
10/25/2017 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 10/25/2017 10:51:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin

It is silly for Uncle Sam to pay glamour city rents so people can be idle in expensive cities like San Francisco and New York.

I would cap a housing voucher for a housing unit at
$250 for a first US citizen adult (age 21+) in the unit, plus
$150 for a second US citizen adult (age 21+) in the unit, plus
$200 if there is a male child aged three to fifteen (or in high school and under age 19) in the unit, plus
$200 if there is a female child aged three to fifteen (or in high school and under age 19) in the unit, plus
$100 for any number of the above

disabled adult -> $350 cap (1-bedroom unit)
[the federal government pays about $700/month in disability benefits too]
mom+newborn -> $350 cap (1-bedroom unit)
mom+newborn+dad -> $500 cap (1-bedroom unit)
mom+4-year old son -> $550 cap (2-bedroom unit)
mom+dad+five-year old son-> $700 cap (2-bedroom unit)
mom+dad+3-year daughter+6-year old son -> $900 cap (3-bedroom unit)

My proposal would generally make it wise for mom and dad to stay together and greatly reduce the welfare state incentive to ditch the daddy.

My proposal would crimp the incentive to make another baby to get more federal money since there would be a three-year waiting period.

My proposal would mainly impact Democrats in expensive blue cities and their suburbs in blue states.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: housingvoucher; hud
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1 posted on 10/25/2017 10:51:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

There is no “right way” to set up a housing voucher.

That is why Milton Friedman and other conservative economists proposed basic income instead of housing vouchers and hundreds of other benefits for the “poor”.

Any system of vouchers requires a huge bureaucracy to administer and monitor the system and is subject to an amazing array of abuses by both landlords and tenants.


2 posted on 10/25/2017 10:57:29 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Give Facebook boy a call. He’s ponying up $45 million for cheap housing and excessive incarceration. You may get him to help you out.


3 posted on 10/25/2017 11:00:12 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Brian Griffin
My Proposal for Federal Housing Voucher Caps:

NUKE 'EM ALONG WITH UNCONSTITUTIONAL HUD!!!

4 posted on 10/25/2017 11:00:35 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Brian Griffin

Counter-proposal:

Replace the housing voucher with a moving voucher.
If you can’t afford to live somewhere, find somewhere you can. Big cities are expensive for a _reason_. The biggest complaint I get about “move” is “they can’t afford to” - well, they can’t afford to live where they are either, so instead of trying to keep them there (which increases prices by increasing the supply of money available to pay for it), give ‘em a one-way ticket to wherever they like, moving van service included.


5 posted on 10/25/2017 11:03:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Jim 0216

Kevin Williamson(National Review) advocated getting rid of HUD but keeping Section 8. I say keep the Sec. 8 bureaucracy and get rid of the rest. Ain’t gonna happen.


6 posted on 10/25/2017 11:03:41 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Don’t rent too many apartments, do you?


7 posted on 10/25/2017 11:05:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: cgbg

“Universal basic income” is terrible, except that it’s much better than the alternative of specialized vouchers/entitlements/etc.

Housing vouchers will do nothing more than increase prices. Landlords know low-income renters will have that voucher, so raise otherwise market prices accordingly.


8 posted on 10/25/2017 11:06:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I say dump Section 8 and HUD, and replace them with reducing housing regulations and eliminating property taxes.
If regulations increase housing prices out of reach of poor, they’re worse than not having regulations. Better a roof with no insulation, than not having a roof at all because R36 insulation costs occupants too much.
If the poor can’t own land outright, they’re beholden to the state every day. Better to own 1000 sq ft of land permanently, than to be driven out because one can’t afford ever-rising taxes thereon - and then have to beg the state for housing vouchers.


9 posted on 10/25/2017 11:11:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Am curious why you differentiate “male child” from “female child” as a distinction without a difference.


10 posted on 10/25/2017 11:12:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

“Am curious why you differentiate “male child” from “female child” as a distinction without a difference.”

My sister had her own bedroom.

My brother and I shared a bedroom.

This was done by gender by mom and dad.

Older children are generally segregated by gender.


11 posted on 10/25/2017 11:23:35 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ctdonath2

“Universal basic income”

They separate SNAP, housing vouchers, Medicaid out because the poor are often very talented at squandering money.


12 posted on 10/25/2017 11:26:08 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ctdonath2

“Housing vouchers will do nothing more than increase prices.”

I’m proposing to reduce the damage done.

San Francisco and NYC are good places to start.


13 posted on 10/25/2017 11:27:55 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Should have stopped here:

“It is silly for Uncle Sam to pay glamour city rents.” Period.

Or even better:
“It is silly for Uncle Sam to pay rents.”


14 posted on 10/25/2017 11:31:50 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: DoodleDawg

“Don’t rent too many apartments, do you?”

The amounts are not meant to cover the whole amount of the rent.

Single mom can wait tables on weekends and leave junior or the little princess with grandma even if grandma still has a weekday job.


15 posted on 10/25/2017 11:32:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Reducing big problems sometimes has to be done in small steps.


16 posted on 10/25/2017 11:34:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Alternate proposal: put ALL “means tested” federal programs into one department. Put a cap on the total amount of aid a family can get. You want a section 8 voucher in an expensive place? Your food stamps or whatever get reduced.


17 posted on 10/25/2017 11:36:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: ctdonath2

“housing regulations”

That’s a big problem too and pretty much a state law issue.


18 posted on 10/25/2017 11:38:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PapaBear3625

“Alternate proposal: put ALL “means tested” federal programs into one department. Put a cap on the total amount of aid a family can get. You want a section 8 voucher in an expensive place? Your food stamps or whatever get reduced.”

Some British Conservatives have wanted to do that, but I don’t know that they have made much progress.

On this side of the Atlantic, big welfare reforms will go nowhere since fatcats love leaching off the federal government via the “poor”.

It’s best to start small and make progress than dream big and get nowhere.


19 posted on 10/25/2017 11:48:04 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ctdonath2
Replace the housing voucher with a moving voucher.

I'm not so sure about that. Trump holds the White House because a ton of young lefties are concentrated in small geographical locations. I kinda don't want to see them diluting all those safe Republican districts.

20 posted on 10/25/2017 11:49:28 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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