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A ‘Marxist’ explanation for the Trump revolution
New York Post ^ | 3 Nov, 2017 | F.H. Buckley

Posted on 11/04/2017 10:15:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber

‘Red October” was the name for a great Cold War movie. It’s also the name for the Communist takeover of the Russian government on Oct. 26, 1917, when Bolshevik forces stormed the Winter Palace in today’s St. Petersburg. That’s according to the old-style calendar; in the new calendar, the 100th anniversary of the Revolution is Tuesday, Nov. 7.

We had our own revolution, a year ago. Which makes it a good time to compare Red October with red-state America, the Trump revolution in American politics.

I got a heads up about the comparison at a 2015 dinner, when I heard a congressman complain about the members of the House’s rambunctious and very conservative Freedom Caucus. “Right-wing Marxists,” he called them. Aha, I thought. That’s me.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m as aware as anyone of all the misery communism gave us, the murders, the twisted lives. I don’t even buy the idiotic notion that this was justified by good intentions. But in one respect Karl Marx understood something about America, something that explains the Trump revolution.

With all the horrors of communism, with all the misery it unleashed on the world, Karl Marx still has something to tell us. Something about the problem he had with America. It didn’t fit with his theories. He said society progressed in stages: first feudalism, then capitalism, then socialism. But in 1852, when he wrote “The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon,” the most advanced capitalist society was that of the United States, and it was nowhere near socialism.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: class; mobility

1 posted on 11/04/2017 10:15:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The Right Wing wants social mobility and the left want to control people. This was a revolt against the social control of the left.


2 posted on 11/04/2017 10:16:31 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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MtnClimber :" The Right Wing wants social mobility and the left want to control people.
This was a revolt against the social control of the left."

"What Happened" - and she still doesn't understand, after a fullyear !
Talk about being 'hard-headed'
Go figure !

3 posted on 11/04/2017 10:32:26 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: MtnClimber

Who is this idiot


4 posted on 11/04/2017 10:38:56 AM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MtnClimber

There’s a fair amount of truth in this, I surprisingly still have a few friends who are old-guard former McGovernites and they’ve plainly stated that they envy Trump’s ability to mobilize for revolutionary change. They’re so alienated by the modern DNC and Clinton dynasty that they couldn’t vote for them, couldn’t vote for any of them but are actually warming to Trump. Can’t admit it in public though, they’d likely be harassed out of their employment, with the USPS and municipal chamber orchestra, respectively.


5 posted on 11/04/2017 10:40:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MtnClimber

Canadian born and educated. This guy does not understand the US at all.

He may live on Va and teach at George Mason but he is the perfect example of book smart and zero knowledge


6 posted on 11/04/2017 10:44:25 AM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MtnClimber

Support with Marxism is incompatible with being a good citizen of the Republic.

Any Marxist in the country should be arrested and deported.


7 posted on 11/04/2017 11:04:02 AM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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To: Nifster

F.H. Buckley teaches at Scalia Law School. His next book, “The Republic of Virtue,” is due out in December.


8 posted on 11/04/2017 11:17:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (Yeah it does actually.)
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To: Nifster

I think the fact that his putting the word Marxist in quotes indicates he is being tongue in cheek when using that term. That is after all what the true Marxists are calling us, so he is jokingly accepting their accusation, but not really as he then refutes their baseless accusation.


9 posted on 11/04/2017 11:24:54 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (Yeah it does actually.)
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To: MtnClimber
A legal election may be revolutionary in sentiment but it isn't a revolution. Marx's revolution hinged on one economic class pursuing its own interest and ending the oppression of another economic class, with an eye to ending the latter's very existence - the Bolsheviks immediately and by violence, the Mensheviks eventually and incrementally. I just don't see that model fitting American politics very well.

The very slogan "Make America Great Again" suggests that this election was not in pursuit of any turnover of society and the inevitable progress of history, rather it was an affirmation of what once was considered to be the status quo, fictive or not. That isn't at all what happened in 1917.

10 posted on 11/04/2017 11:28:26 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yes, the article was about Marx theory about why there was not support for Marxism in the USA like there was in UK. Marx thought it was because there is social mobility here. And it is the progressives who try to regulate things which stifles mobility.


11 posted on 11/04/2017 11:38:10 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Exactly, and Marx may have been correct in that claim with respect to the U.S. of the late 19th century and certainly afterward. He didn't regard the changes that he witnessed in Prussia in 1854 to be examples of class mobility, but in fact they were. His proletariat were ex-agrarians who flocked to the factories for work and disposable income, which they'd never had before, but they did not become poorer, more illiterate, and more "immiserated" as he predicted, but rather climbed to the status of petit bourgeoisie, which he viewed as an impediment to the revolution.

Even today if you go to a factory in what was Prussia you see what you see here: a large parking lot with automobiles bought on credit. The proletariat could never do that, by definition. What actually happened was that virtually the entire working class moved up a notch. He was correct about that being an impediment to revolution, however - now they had something to lose.

If you advance that already creaky model to 21st century America you see even bigger cracks in it - workers with pension funds in the U.S. are some of the biggest investors in common stock in the country - they're literally capitalists. And they voted for Trump, to bring this back to the author's original thesis. And the Dems just can't seem to figure that out.

12 posted on 11/04/2017 11:59:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Robert DeLong

“Foundation Professor at George Mason University School of Law, where he has taught since 1989.

That’s what his cv says


13 posted on 11/04/2017 2:14:22 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Robert DeLong

I unde stood his article. He is incorrect in his analysis and more than a little condescending to the good voters of the US


14 posted on 11/04/2017 2:15:47 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

idiot?...the guys dead on right .. try reading it...

he’s not talking about Marxist as socialism

He’s talking about the class Revolution


15 posted on 11/04/2017 2:56:32 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Nifster

That is what is at the bottom of the article.


16 posted on 11/04/2017 3:01:31 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (Yeah it does actually.)
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To: tophat9000

I read it. I understood it. I don’t agree with his analysis


17 posted on 11/04/2017 4:21:12 PM PDT by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MtnClimber
Wikipedia bio says:
Francis "Frank" H. Buckley is a Foundation Professor at George Mason University School of Law, where he has taught since 1989. Before then he was a visiting Olin Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School. He has also taught at Panthéon-Assas University, Sciences Po in Paris and the McGill Faculty of Law in Montreal...

He has written on issues including constitutional government, the rule of law, laughter and contract theory. He is a frequent contributor to The American Spectator and other magazines and newspapers....

According to National Review, he is unrelated to conservative author William F. Buckley Jr.


18 posted on 11/04/2017 5:37:21 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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