Classical Music’s White Male Supremacy is Overt, Pervasive, and a Problem

Scapi Magazine ^ | 2-18-2018 | Daniel Johanson

[Boogieman]

Yes, Western Civilization must be destroyed. Only then can inferior civilizations be subjected to the Marxist bootheel without pesky Westerners stepping in to save them.

[Brooklyn Attitude]

“Unlike the garbage deemed music of today such as rap, hip hop, etc., classical music has been with us for centuries, leave it alone.”

That’s the problem, they can’t leave it alone. It’s not that there is a problem with the music itself, its that it comes from dead white males. The music represents beauty, excellence and the glorification of God that was created by white (non diverse) Western Civilization that cannot be matched today. The haters of Western Civ must therefore destroy or discredit it.

[bk1000]

“How many millions of Americans have heard of Beethoven only because of Schroeder in the comic strip Peanuts? Of course the Beatles helped with their “Roll over, Beethoven,” but a lot of people are too young to have listened to music by the Beatles.”

I don’t think Peanuts is much of an influence any longer, which probably means there is more truth to your post than I’d like to believe. Those same people probably were unfamiliar with Mozart until the movie “Amadeus”, and that was (gasp!) 34 years ago. Even if it remains a small market, people still listen 400+ years later. I doubt much of what passes for popular music today will have that longevity.

[givemELL]

Well, this example of “cultural Marxism” in practice by the left is a direct historically linked expression of thinking documented in practice by Stalinst Communism, Pol-Pot Cambodian genocide, etc.

Take Pol-Pot as an example. His “killing fields” were populated by citizens who:

1) OVERTLY...had uncalloused hands, wore glasses and collared white shirts, had technical skills, were teachers, etc
2)Pervasive...the above were everywehre! EVERYWHERE!!
3)Problem...Pol-Pot, communist, defines a non-problem as a PROBLEM!...without histrorical data, logic, reasoning or concern for cause and effect

After reaching the identical processed conclusion communists have used since the Bolshevik Revolution regarding the left’s cultural/political arbitrary linkage of race and music in this case, Pol-Pot began his roundups and proceeded with genocide.

This article describes the same communist thinking, the identical progression to the goal of elimination of any and all differing cultural expression, thinking or practice leading to genocide as in Pol-Pot’s case. The alliances of Islam and Marxism in the West are quite understandable in this regard.

While the correct and pointed humor regarding the subject are welcome, appropriate, the left’s linkage of race, culture and ubiquity of expression not like their own beliefs and goals is right on the edge of being expressed Pol-Pot style if the left can get the political power to act out utopian desires of extermination.

The earlier post re “Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourself” is much shorter and to the point than the above. Cultural and political Marxism is just a historically documented pathway to genocide.

[Redwood71]

You’re going to have to define classical music. I see classical music as bodies done by the masters like Bach and Chopin hundreds, possibly, a thousand years ago. And the last classical composer was Sergei Vasilievich Rachmaninoff who died, an American citizen, in Los Angeles in 1943.

Outside of that, I can’t think of any others. So if that is the classical music you are meaning, then all they are trying to do is create another “what happened in the past” into a political agitation, not dealing with history. If the last classical composer died 23 years before the Civil Rights Acts, how can there be a comparison of failure to integrate in a field that never knew it needed to and respected all music no matter who wrote it?

rwood

[SteveH]

and btw why are women shut out of the rock and roll hall of fame??

lol

[fr_freak]

This entire concept is nothing but pure race hatred, and I mean Hitler wanting to exterminate Jews level of race hatred. Classical music is a product of European culture, carried on by their descendants. It is open to everyone now, of course, but to try to separate this aspect of culture from the very people who created it by claiming that their dominant participation in that culture is some sort of evidence of dysfunction on their part is nothing short of revisionist gaslighting of the highest order. It is akin to breaking into someone’s house and then calling the police on the owners saying that they are squatting on your property.

[itsahoot]

The great classical composers were white, and are now dead. It’s too late to change them into something else.

Not so fast there racist, the past is never certain.

[DaxtonBrown]

Like rap and hip hop are a gift to the world.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks goldendelicious. Ridiculous. It's well past time to just start cutting throats.

[hal ogen]

This is typical LIB blather...spew...ignorance...hatred...lunacy. Typical.

[Verginius Rufus]

I can remember when it was being claimed that Beethoven was black.

[itsahoot]

I can remember when it was being claimed that Beethoven was black.

Like I said the past is never certain. Some Commie said that I think.

[P.O.E.]

Or a cake-decorating contest?

[dr_lew]

I believe, traditionally at least, chess has status in black urban culture, I guess because of those tables in the park.

So 3 or 4 grandmasters? No problem. I’ll just bet those guys in the park were a lot better than me. I guess I learned early on that I didn’t excel at chess. That’s the nice thing about it. It’s honest.

[dr_lew]

How many millions of Americans have heard of Beethoven only because of Schroeder in the comic strip Peanuts? Of course the Beatles helped with their "Roll over, Beethoven," but a lot of people are too young to have listened to music by the Beatles.

Roll Over Beethoven was by Chuck Berry ... #94 on the list of top 500 Rock&Roll songs of all time, according to Wikipedia.

( To be honest, I must admit I thought it was Elvis! )

[dr_lew]

You know, when I see a picture like that ... I’m that guy ... I’m like “Ohhhhh, Mannnnn!”

... I know, a Bleeding Heart! Well, my eyes and ears are open.

[Noumenon]

Another virtue signaling SJW turd in the punchbowl. They can all go eff themselves. Let’s see. Mahler’s 8th, especially by Georg Solti and the Chicago Philharmonic versus “Smack My Bitch Up”

Decisions, decisions.

Btw, the Columbia LP is hands down better than the same thing on CD. Groove noise and all. Half my classical music library is on LPs.

[robroys woman]

Btw, the Columbia LP is hands down better than the same thing on CD. Groove noise and all. Half my classical music library is on LPs.

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Heh. I sold hi-fi between 1976 and 1982. We sold records and I learned to love RCA Red Seal but was not a fan of DG. The latter had an audible lack of dynamic range for some odd reason.

And to be fair, I was not biased and it took a lot of recordings to bring me to a point where I solidified my perspective.

Meanwhile, only one of my cartridges will play the third canon blast in the Telarc digitally mastered LP of the 1812 overture without popping out of the groove. It’s my old AT15-SA. But truth be told, I’ve not played it for a while and I learned that I was tracking the ZLM and AT-20 too light.

[Noumenon]

Ah, those were the golden days of high end audio. I also worked in the business during and after my college days. WRT DG, they always sounded thin with a tilted up top end. A pity, since they offered a lot of great music.

Nowadays, I’m running a highly modified Thorens TD126 mkIII with a Dynavector 10x5 in a venerable SME 3009 arm. Tracks most everything I have and sounds great. It’s as much cartridge as I can afford these days and does a pretty good job of keeping up with the rest of the system. System in question is all ARC electronics (including a PH3 SE phono preamp for some of that analog tube goodness) and Magneplanar 3.7i speakers.