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Deep-Space NASA Rocket Engines Perform Most Powerful Ignition Test Yet
Space.com ^ | February 25, 2018 08:29am ET | Doris Elin Salazar, Contributor |

Posted on 02/25/2018 9:31:24 PM PST by BenLurkin

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To: Sontagged

It’s a fundamental law of physics - every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So if a nozzle expels gasses with a given momentum rearwards, the spacecraft will gain the same momentum in the forward direction. And in the vacuum of space, there is no friction to diminish that effect.


81 posted on 03/07/2018 7:40:06 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sontagged
I suppose the question is, what is the construction of this sort of nozzle that would withstand the pressure of a boundless infinite vacuum?

A vacuum exerts no pressure at all. Do this experiment. Go to the bottom of a pool. Feel the increase in pressure. Now climb up to 20,000 feet and measure the barometric pressure. Much lower. With the Bernoulli effect, the lower air pressure over the top of a curved wing does not pull the aircraft, the higher pressure under the wing pushes it up.

82 posted on 03/07/2018 7:43:23 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sontagged

“You know that Iraq’s Christians have been genocided since 911, right?”

No, and neither do you obviously. Whatta maroon!


83 posted on 03/07/2018 7:43:54 PM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: Sontagged

“pressure of a boundless infinite vacuum?”

There is no such thing. I know that phrase sounded pretty smart, but it was nothing but retarded ignorance.


84 posted on 03/07/2018 7:44:55 PM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: CodeToad

LOL, I meant that you need more than a tin can or aluminum foil on your rocket ship in order to withstand the pressure of an absolute vacuum, and the nozzle we had been discussing would likewise have to be made of very interesting material to withstand a boundless, infinite vacuum.


85 posted on 03/07/2018 11:58:42 PM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: CodeToad

Next time do a little bit of research on the genocide of Christians in Iraq.

https://aleteia.org/2017/11/16/the-un-doesnt-recognize-the-christian-genocide-in-iraq-this-new-documentary-does/

Why are you so ignorant of the BushObama legacy in Iraq?


86 posted on 03/08/2018 12:01:47 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: dirtboy

The infinite vacuum of space would vacuum up and instantaneously disperse gasseous molecules faster than its ability to overcome through said nozzle.

Some other person here said that it is ion thrust in space, so looks like I’m right and, of course, the whole idea of rockets operating in a boundless, infinite vacuum makes no sense. There is no fire in a vacuum. No thrust or ignition. No air flow without those molecules sucked up as fast as the skin off your face is ripped away while your innards collapse into a pancake.

The “pressure” I was talking about in a vacuum is the pressure on a tin can to collapse it.


87 posted on 03/08/2018 12:08:13 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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88 posted on 03/08/2018 12:11:36 AM PST by Sontagged (Lord Jesus, please frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised in Your Word)
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To: Sontagged

Gawd, give it up. You are wallowing in ignorance and believing you are showing your profound wisdom. Makes you look more stupid with each post.


89 posted on 03/08/2018 5:59:35 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sontagged
There is no fire in a vacuum. No thrust or ignition.

Once again, rockets carry both fuel and oxidants. The space shuttle tanks held liquid hydrogen as fuel and liquid oxygen as an oxidant. Please, your stupidity is approaching the painful to others level. Try actually reading up on this subject. And also, once again, a vacuum crushes nothing, as it is nothing by definition. Pressure differential is what provides a crushing force.

90 posted on 03/08/2018 6:04:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Sontagged
A vacuum does not exert a force, as there is nothing there to create a force. It is the pressure differential between the inside and outside that creates the force on the container. This pressure differential is described as gauge pressure. For instance, if you have a tire pressure gauge, it reads zero when not attached to the tire, even though absolute atmospheric pressure is approximately 14.7 psia.

Also, when the internal pressure is greater than the external pressure, the container becomes stiffer. We see this in tires, footballs, and basketballs, but it also occurs for metallic structures.

For example, a football is usually pressurized to 12.5 to 13.5 psig. If we pressurized it 14.7 psi (slightly over inflated), that is equivalent to having a football at 14.7 psia (1 atmosphere) surrounded by a vacuum.

So, the football at atmospheric pressure would not explode in a vacuum. Likewise, a thin-wall aluminum structure can be designed not to rupture due to the internal pressure structure. This has been demonstrated time and time again in vacuum chambers all over the world.

Now, if you create a vacuum inside of a container, it will be prone to collapse due to buckling. Submarines have a certain "crush depth", where the pressure exerted by the water is too great for the hull to handle. But the crush pressure is many times atmospheric pressure. Modern attack submarines have a crush pressure of over 1,000 psig.

91 posted on 03/08/2018 7:46:57 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: bmwcyle

You’re fucking stupid, the oxygen in the air IS an oxidizer, it’s no different if you bring the oxidizer with you!


93 posted on 04/24/2018 2:22:06 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: BenLurkin

btt


94 posted on 04/24/2018 2:28:39 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: Sontagged

There is no pressure in a vacuum. The only pressure a ship has to contain is it’s internal atmo. 14.7 psi is sea level pressure on earth.


95 posted on 04/24/2018 3:39:32 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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