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To: reasonisfaith

The founding fathers were well versed in secret societies.

The issue is that our Congress has become more of a career. And as D.C. Grew, so did the inability to get shit done. Thus, EOs rule the day.


18 posted on 03/03/2018 6:02:26 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Doesn’t make secret societies right.

And doesn’t take away from the good the founding fathers did.

Focus for a minute: secret societies are separate and independent of America’s founding principles.

The founding documents do not establish secret societies. To do that requires stepping away completely from the elevated arena of Constitutional principles in a downward direction, passing through the land of average ideas, and then again stepping very far downward into the malodorous quagmire of all that is corrupt.

Note: it wasn’t the founders’ intellect that tempted some of them to be secretive.


19 posted on 03/03/2018 7:04:52 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Vermont Lt
It is true that one of the biggest problems is that congress has become a career. That is a part of progressivism.

See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3601646/posts

"And as D.C. Grew, so did the inability to get shit done."

This is a misnomer. Our constitution is specifically designed to slow things down so that the "passions" - as our Founders so frequently talked about - are ignored or eclipsed while people have time to debate and talk about issues and a reasonable conclusion can be gained for a problem. Reason should always carry the day. Or, as so many of our wise grandparents and elders have said to all of us: "You have an important decision? Sleep on it and make your choice tomorrow".

At its base, gridlock is actually a good thing.

Do we want the government doing things? Or do we want the people doing things instead? This is an either/or choice as one negates the other.

We know what the Founders chose. The fact remains: King George III got a whole lot of things done. And the Founders declared independence because of it. They didn't want the government getting things done, they wanted the people doing it.

22 posted on 03/04/2018 11:19:08 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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