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GOP Panic Spreads to Pennsylvania
National Journal ^ | March 4, 2018 | Josh Kraushaar

Posted on 03/06/2018 4:42:30 PM PST by lasereye

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To: fortheDeclaration

With the way Republican voters are not coming out to vote, and the way Democtats are coming out to vote in droves, it seems likely the Dems will hold all their Senate seats....Also keep in mind Thad Cochrans seat is up for grabs now


141 posted on 03/07/2018 7:41:38 AM PST by Angels27
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To: lasereye

You’re delusional, troll.


142 posted on 03/07/2018 1:02:06 PM PST by Conserv
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To: af_vet_1981

That’s funny. I don’t remember writing anything with respect to polling, in 2016.


143 posted on 03/11/2018 5:57:08 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
That’s funny. I don’t remember writing anything with respect to polling, in 2016.

Trump was ahead IMO, but his blunders and the illegal media leak of his taxes have swung it to Clinton. Now we’ll have a month of “don’t believe the polls” like in 2008 and 2012.

59 posted on 10/4/2016, 8:20:24 AM by lasereye
144 posted on 03/11/2018 6:12:46 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: lasereye
Here is the link:
Pennsylvania moves to ‘toss-up’ in our new 2016 ratings! (From "Leans Democrat")
145 posted on 03/11/2018 6:23:11 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: lasereye

I don’t get any buyers remorse for Trump, so this is just more anti Trump bs in that regard. However, the Dems have been working 24/7 keeping their base upset and energized.

Dems did this in 2008 - found attractive “moderate” candidates to run. Pelosi marched them all off the cliff passing Obama Care etc.

If the pubbie will get out and talk to the people, he can point out how the Pelosi does not represent their values, and address their concerns. A few years ago, we had a reliable Dem area for 70 years finally flip to Republican.

The candidate spent many long days going house to house and talking one on one with the people-not just having rallies etc. He got 70% of the vote.

The one and only thing that had stopped many of these people before was their support of the union. He told them he would not do anything that would hurt jobs for his constituents.

Like most news, this is just a piece of propaganda Psops. The Dem may win, or the Dem may lose. Better pay attention to who counts those votes.


146 posted on 03/11/2018 6:30:17 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: LS

A series of special elections where a party wins a bunch of seats they haven’t held in a long time have been a pretty good predictor of mid-terms. Maybe this year is the big exception.

AZ and TX weren’t the general. They have been winning all these specials precisely because their base is turning out very heavily, which is due to two things, neither of which apply in primary elections:

1) The Dems’ methods for turning people out to the polls, which are very good. The Democrats aren’t trying to get people out to the polls in primaries. Individual candidates might be but not the Dem organization, which is very different.

2) The Democrat base’s hatred for Trump. That motivates high turnout with no need for the Democrats to even do anything.


147 posted on 03/11/2018 6:52:26 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: af_vet_1981

There was no comment on any polls there.


148 posted on 03/11/2018 6:54:41 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
There was no comment on any polls there.

Do you admit this was your comment ?

"Now we’ll have a month of “don’t believe the polls” like in 2008 and 2012."
149 posted on 03/11/2018 7:00:02 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: greeneyes

I’ve said Saccone should make it about impeachment. Lamb would say he’s not in favor of it - but if the Dems take over the House, Trump’s going to be impeached. Saccone has to pound that point, and also basically call Lamb a liar.


150 posted on 03/11/2018 7:01:11 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
You also wrote this referring to the polls:

The flip side of that argument is that the polls may be identifying likely voters on the other side based on their participation in 2008 and 2012 I don't think any of them do that.

55 posted on 10/4/2016, 8:07:42 AM by lasereye

151 posted on 03/11/2018 7:02:48 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: lasereye

That’s true too. Several points he could pound on.


152 posted on 03/11/2018 7:03:03 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: af_vet_1981

It was. That was not a comment on any poll. But if you want to say it was then I’m not going to argue the point.

I haven’t commented on any specific polls in this post either. My prediction of a Democrat wave in November is not based on polls.


153 posted on 03/11/2018 7:07:22 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
It was. That was not a comment on any poll. But if you want to say it was then I’m not going to argue the point.

I haven’t commented on any specific polls in this post either. My prediction of a Democrat wave in November is not based on polls.


The article of the thread in which you made the comments was about a poll. Your prediction of a Democrat wave would be consistent with your expectation of a Clinton victory. One could have happened, and the other could still happen.

Why? Because poll after poll after poll — including one released by Quinnipiac University on Monday — suggest that in a four-way race that includes Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein, Clinton holds a very narrow lead over Trump. It's a lead more consistent with the other states that we rate toss-ups than the states we rate lean Democratic, which is where we've had Pennsylvania for some time now.
154 posted on 03/11/2018 7:13:15 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: lasereye

Are you 16?

Midterms are always difficult for incumbent first term Presidents.

Wave ? LMAO


155 posted on 03/11/2018 7:13:16 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: af_vet_1981
The article of the thread in which you made the comments was about a poll.

I said if you want to say I was commenting on polls there I won't argue the point. Your point is what exactly? As I said I am not predicting what happens this Nov. based on any poll.

Your prediction of a Democrat wave would be consistent with your expectation of a Clinton victory.

What's that supposed to mean? If I was wrong then, then I must be wrong now?

The point of this discussion is eluding me. Good night.

156 posted on 03/11/2018 8:10:14 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Well, yes and no.

In most of these special state elections, the turnout has actually been exceptionally low: CT was 3000 people, with the D winning by 51 votes; GA senate was 9%.

As best I can tell, ONLY the FL Sarasota race had even decent turnout. So, no, the left is NOT “mobilizing their base.” The conservatives are, as I’ve been saying, back to normal lives and sick of constant electioneering.

Second, the left has been pouring ridiculous amounts of money into races such as AL, GA congressional seat they lost, VA, and most recently Sarasota. GOP on the other had has been saving it for the 2018 generals, and they have a lot of it. about 5-10 times MORE than the Ds.

Third, when you get to elections that “matter,” we are 6-1. The only loss-—while a big one in AL-—was 100% candidate related. Moore got 685,000 FEWER votes than Shelby did just one year earlier, and 350,000 fewer than Sessions did when he ran UNOPPOSED six years earlier. AL was entirely on Moore.

But AZCD8, the GOP buried the Ds in turnout 2:1. In TX, despite MOST of the GOP running unopposed, Rs had 500,000 more . . . in a state supposedly going blue.

In short, these seemingly unending low-level specials not only do not excite our side, they irritate us.


157 posted on 03/12/2018 6:25:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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