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1 posted on 03/24/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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The stupidity continues.


2 posted on 03/24/2018 9:58:38 AM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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NY big business will move out.


3 posted on 03/24/2018 10:02:58 AM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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I understand the concept but it’s idiotic to have any government involved in this.


4 posted on 03/24/2018 10:05:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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Perhaps Espinal is unaware that labor law already prohibits employers from requiring employees to conduct work-related activity when they are off-duty.

Prohibiting employers from contacting employees during off hours is a terrible idea. There are cases in which the employer has a legitimate interest in off-duty communication. For example, if a natural disaster hits, the employer has a legitimate interest in finding out if the employee is affected.

The article is not clear about what, exactly, Espinal is proposing. In any case, he should study up on existing law and make an effort to understand employer/employee relationships.

At my place of employment, we have contact information on every employee, contractor, and student who spends even a couple of weeks with us. And we have contacted employees who are on vacation on certain occasions (like natural disasters).


5 posted on 03/24/2018 10:09:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Nanny state.


6 posted on 03/24/2018 10:15:14 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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all the important stuff...


7 posted on 03/24/2018 10:18:09 AM PDT by cherry
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And why are bosses calling? If they are calling to see if you can cover another shift at work, for example, then you will be paid, possibly overtime pay, to cover the shift.

A blanket ban to not allow contacting people outside of work hours seems extreme to me.


8 posted on 03/24/2018 10:28:18 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I realize that this is NYC, but Oracle just announced today (or yesterday) that they’ll soon be employing 10,000 people in Austin (people who, a generation ago, would have been employed in California). And while Austin is run by people as left-wing as California, Texas is not and we don’t permit yocals to do stupid things, such as something like this law.


9 posted on 03/24/2018 10:29:42 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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Having been an upper Management Salaried (Exempt) Employee for Decades, it was understood that when you needed take care of a problem, no matter when, you were expected to do what is necessary.

I remember having to deal with some issues when I was on my Honeymoon in Hawaii, calling into the Office to make sure things were getting done.

At times I needed to call in a Non-Exempt Hourly / Salaried Employee to work extra Hours or Overtime Hours. Is that now forbidden with Laws like this too?

I knew exactly what I was getting into when I accepted a position of responsibility.

The Corporations operation ran 24/7/365 with three shifts a day. There were no “non-essential” Government like Jobs.

These new “Workers Paradise” Laws are getting more ridiculous every day. (Just like every other Law)


10 posted on 03/24/2018 10:31:58 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Amed Scoiety is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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I got an idea! How about 2 hours of pay if they call you. If it is an emergency they won’t care. Sounds like the state is in the bargaining business.


11 posted on 03/24/2018 10:32:48 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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I was on 24/7 call in status for most of my working life but was given compensation time off so it never bothered me. The nature of our operation made it difficult for our plants to shut down.


13 posted on 03/24/2018 10:40:24 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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So when we are shut down for the day because the water main broke the employees will have to come in to find out that they can turn around and go back home.

I am sure that will go over well.

15 posted on 03/24/2018 10:49:33 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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Wow. So first responders and emergency workers couldn’t be called in emergency situations when off the clock? Not sure that would work for long. NYC and SF seem to be on open competition for creating stupid laws.


16 posted on 03/24/2018 10:54:10 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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I get calls after hours sometimes and it’s not a big deal. Sometimes from customers and if it gets too involved we resolve to follow up next day or whatever. Only losers and snowflakes refuse to go the little extra mile now and then. Why should the state get involved? Let the business and employees hash it out or change jobs/careers. As an employer who would you promote, the slacker entitled loser or the diligent, responsible employee? The state wants to make all equal losers. Communists.


19 posted on 03/24/2018 10:55:08 AM PDT by tflabo (Varmints)
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More nanny statism. If I hate my boss and job that much, I’ll leave. At will employment works both ways. I don’t need Big Government stepping in with nonsense regulations.


20 posted on 03/24/2018 10:59:24 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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Several years ago, my company was involved in a lawsuit because managers would email their employees after work. Petty kind of stuff, such as where they wanted their employees to start the next day (we have field technicians that are based out of their houses) or communicating other general information for their teams. We weren't asking them to open Excel and crunch spreadsheets or anything like that.

But some of the employees got "stressed out" that their personal time was getting infringed on. Mind you, they were getting these emails mostly on company owned devices. So they were surfing the web on OUR device and a boss from their email came in. Oh, the humanity!

Yes, a class action lawsuit was brought to bear. On a national basis. We settled out of court. The lawyers made millions. The employees got checks averaging a few hundred dollars.

The settlement was so absurd that during snowstorms, we weren't allowed to notify them by email that the office was closed if it was not during business hours. We ended up setting up phone numbers for them to call where they could get announcements like that without us being accused of violating their time.

We then set up our network so that hourly employees could no longer log into the network after hours with their devices unless we authorized them for overtime and issued them a special password. In fact, they weren't allowed to use company devices at all after hours so many of them ended up having to purchase their own laptops and cell phones for personal use - where before, we did not mind them using our company devices for personal use (so they saved a lot of money that way).

Just goes to show that certain people can't have nice things.

Another effect of this is that we are now hiring our management from the outside. We used to develop managers from within but the employees are so hamstrung with regard to what they can do after hours that all they can do is do their regular jobs and punch out at 5 - just like the worker drones that they now are.

25 posted on 03/24/2018 11:10:35 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Well, there goes New York. Let’s see how they feel when there’s a huge catastrophe and they need more FD and PD.


31 posted on 03/24/2018 11:43:47 AM PDT by Scooter100
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Words fail me. Did they put Hogg in charge?

In my first 30 years I worked 15 years of overtime - unpaid. Don’t regret a minute of it. And, as a result my co-workers, management, and customers knew they could depend on me, and I would never leave a crucial issue un-resolved just because it was 5 o’clock. And my successful career has lasted 50 years and counting. And, I always knew I had the option to resign and seek employment elsewhere. And all the people who left when they could have stayed to resolve the problems and meet the deadlines wondered why I got the nicer office and the better raises/promotions.

Sounds like typical leftist & European Onion B/S.


35 posted on 03/24/2018 12:48:38 PM PDT by Thom Pain (The purpose of the U.S. Constitution is to protect us from our Government)
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EVERY business in the USA is over-regulated already.

I started full time work when I was 17 & I am now 78. I have been self- employed since 1980 & still have 2 bookkeeping clients.

I have made calls & received calls ‘after work hours’. NEVER was offended. There can be any number of reasons why a person might need to contact you.

With all the focus on “GLOBAL ECONOMY” action, anything could happen elsewhere in the world that would require your boss to reach you.

This isn’t an issue for NYC or any other location to administer. It is between the boss & his employees.

Would they also apply such a rule to all police-firemen-and emergency personnel if another 9-11 attack occurred? OF COURSE NOT. Get the H out of MY business & other businesses.

IF an ‘employee’ doesn’t like being contacted ‘after hours’-—QUIT THE JOB.


37 posted on 03/24/2018 1:46:58 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Are they hourly or salaried?

If hourly, they should get paid for the bother.


38 posted on 03/24/2018 2:24:03 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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