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Paul Krugman: We Donít Need No Education
New York Slimes ^ | April 24, 2018 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 04/24/2018 7:42:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode

Matt Bevin, the conservative Republican governor of Kentucky, lost it a few days ago. Thousands of his state’s teachers had walked off their jobs, forcing many schools to close for a day, to protest his opposition to increased education funding. And Bevin lashed out with a bizarre accusation: “I guarantee you somewhere in Kentucky today a child was sexually assaulted that was left at home because there was nobody there to watch them.”

He later apologized. But his hysterical outburst had deep roots: At the state and local levels, the conservative obsession with tax cuts has forced the G.O.P. into what amounts to a war on education, and in particular a war on schoolteachers. That war is the reason we’ve been seeing teacher strikes in multiple states. And people like Bevin are having a hard time coming to grips with the reality they’ve created.

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What education? More like indoctrination.
1 posted on 04/24/2018 7:42:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

End government schools.


2 posted on 04/24/2018 7:44:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: EdnaMode

We don’t need no education, we don’t need no thought control!


3 posted on 04/24/2018 7:46:33 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: ClearCase_guy
This might be a good opportunity for public figures to stand up and point out that public education is one of the worst investments of taxpayer money you can imagine.

And I say this even if your local school district has the best teachers, best schools, and best education performance in the history of mankind.

The problem is that education is a highly transferable asset that always goes wherever the recipient of that education goes. I pointed this out at a business meeting a few weeks ago when I asked everyone in the room to count the number of their childhood friends still lived in the town -- or even the state -- where they graduated from high school. In reality, a lot of public school districts end up spending a fortune educating children who leave the area as soon as they can, and become productive taxpayers somewhere else.

4 posted on 04/24/2018 7:51:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: EdnaMode

Schools under the thumb of NEA and AFSCME are more likely to hinder a child’s education than not.


5 posted on 04/24/2018 7:54:12 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Excellent point!


6 posted on 04/24/2018 7:54:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Obadiah

We don’t need more cowbell from Krugboy.


7 posted on 04/24/2018 7:55:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Your argument really only works if you make it in the context of “our school system can be piss poor because too many of our educated kids don’t stick around here.” Otherwise, you have plenty of people educated in other areas who come to your area and are productive citizens.

Incidentally, a very large number of people I went to high school with are still in the general metro area (DFW) of where went. While there are legit knocks on public education, I’m not sure your point is particularly one of them. It varies too much by locale.


8 posted on 04/24/2018 7:58:26 AM PDT by 1L
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To: Obadiah

Yeah exactly!


9 posted on 04/24/2018 7:58:55 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

Each, and all, of us, however, must find whatever means we can utilize to expose as many potential voters as we can reach with a glimpse of the “vision” America’s Founders had for this place on the globe.

Their vision was for a place were Creator-endowed human beings, reacting to the call of the Supreme Being in their own consciences, and being aware of what they called “natural law,” could live together with one another in “peace, liberty, and safety,” (Jefferson’s First Inaugural) under a system of self-government, whose elected “People’s” representatives would be “bound down by the chains of the Constitution” (Jefferson again) they framed and adopted in 1787.

Love and respect for their unprecedented work and sacrifices have motivated millions of America’s finest to join the founding generation in being willing to sacrifice their own “lives, property, and sacred honor” across these 200+ years.

Today, with the so-called “progressives,” there is no “vision” for liberty—only a utopian dream (in reality, a nightmare) of equality in misery under a political elite throughout the globe.

Here is an excerpt from a late-19th Century essay, which can be read at the Liberty Fund Library here.

“Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove.” EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON

Today is the day in America when the battle of ideas between Freedom and Socialism must be engaged by competent, knowledgeable spokesmen and spokeswomen who are candidates.

That is why the topic of this thread is so very important to freedom lovers everywhere.


10 posted on 04/24/2018 8:00:29 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: EdnaMode

Paul Krugman, of Princeton, lost it a few decades ago.

We don’t need no education... /pink floyd


11 posted on 04/24/2018 8:01:09 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Obadiah

I posted before I saw yours.

GMTA!


12 posted on 04/24/2018 8:02:13 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: 1L

You happen to live in one of the areas of the U.S. that has been booming for some time. Come up here to the Northeast and attend a 10-year, 20-year, or 25-year high school reunion. It’s shocking how many people in the room don’t live in the same town — or even the same state — where they graduated from high school.


13 posted on 04/24/2018 8:02:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: EdnaMode

There’s already too much money in education. It doesn’t really take much to educate a child. Competent teachers, a few well-chosen books, a classroom and discipline are all that’s needed.


14 posted on 04/24/2018 8:03:46 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Alberta's Child

OK, your post is brilliant!

I hadn’t really thought of education that way before.


15 posted on 04/24/2018 8:03:48 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: 1L

P.S. — My argument is that education is something that people should pay for directly, not through taxation. If you have three kids in school, you should get a bill for each one of them. If you have no kids in school, you shouldn’t pay a dime for them.


16 posted on 04/24/2018 8:04:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
There’s already too much money in education. It doesn’t really take much to educate a child. Competent teachers, a few well-chosen books, a classroom and discipline are all that’s needed.

And parents who understand that even if their kids go to public school, they are still the primary educators of their children, and the schools are merely a complement.

17 posted on 04/24/2018 8:04:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: loveliberty2
Reference here as a beginning for teachers who wish to pursue a "freedom" curriculum.
18 posted on 04/24/2018 8:06:16 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: EdnaMode

Yeh...wot passes for edu is indoctrination; real education is self-education w/o a piece of parchment.
But try to get to the head of the employment line w/o paying off the system!
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19 posted on 04/24/2018 8:08:25 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: EdnaMode

The school funding crunch is mostly about unfundef pension. We’ve been kicking the can down the road for many years. We are getting to the end of the road.


20 posted on 04/24/2018 8:12:33 AM PDT by sphinx
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