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SpaceX Falcon Heavy Too Small For Deep Space, Says Boeing
Value Walk ^ | May 1, 2018 8:11 am by | Danica Simic

Posted on 05/01/2018 7:49:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Boeing and NASA are working together in order to build the Space Launch System (SLS). The rocket is believed to be capable of transporting humans and cargo into deep space. According to reports, the rocket is estimated to be the most powerful rocket system ever built. Boeing also set up a promotional website for the rocket in which it calls out Elon Musk’s company SpaceX, calling the Falcon Heavy too small for deep space exploration.

“The Falcon Heavy launch turned heads in February, but SpaceX’s rocket is a smaller type of rocket that can’t meet NASA’s deep-space needs,” the statement on Boeing’s site reads, in which the aerospace giant called the SpaceX Falcon Heavy too small for deep space. “Once the Boeing-built SLS is operational, it will be the most powerful rocket ever built.”

Such statements of the aerospace giant come after NASA’s head of human spaceflight, Bill Gerstenmaier, reportedly said in March that the SLS will be equipped with certain “unique capabilities” that the Falcon Heavy lacks at the moment, ARS Technica reports.

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According to the report, it’s strange that Boeing speaks of the SLS as if it’s going to be built and ready for launch in the near future. In reality, the booster stage is not going to be capable of flight for at least two years. Furthermore, the rocket won’t come anywhere close to the “most powerful rocket” tag, as the report notes.

Right now, the rocket with the “most powerful rocket” tag is still Saturn V, which NASA used during the Apollo missions.... The rockets were capable of carrying 118 metric tons into low Earth orbit (LEO). The first SLS rocket will be capable of lifting 70 tons to LEO, that is a tad higher compared to the 64 tons of the Falcon Heavy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: alabama; apollo; billgerstenmaier; boeing; boeingpathtonowhere; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; nasa; porkbarrel; richardshelby; saturnv; sls; spacex

1 posted on 05/01/2018 7:49:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

That’s why SpaceX is building the BFR.


2 posted on 05/01/2018 7:53:00 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: BenLurkin

Well then going can stay home


3 posted on 05/01/2018 7:53:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: BenLurkin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket)


4 posted on 05/01/2018 7:55:19 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Ya mean the BIG FUSION ROCKET.... ;)?

(just kidding)


5 posted on 05/01/2018 7:57:36 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: dynoman

SLS is years behind thanks to government. The Obama administration hamstrung the American space program, and now they’re trying to play catch up.


6 posted on 05/01/2018 8:00:28 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: BenLurkin

How are they defining Deep Space?

I would have guessed that meant Intergalactic Space, but I’m pretty sure that’s not on our current “to-do” list.

If they mean going to Mars, that doesn’t seem all that Deep to me.

Of course, America was once focused on the old “Northwest Territory” which was basically Ohio. So sometimes terms change their meaning as you go further out.


7 posted on 05/01/2018 8:01:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: BenLurkin

...and Boeing’s rocket will be cheaper as they will have it mostly built in China.


8 posted on 05/01/2018 8:19:28 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: mdmathis6

>>Ya mean the BIG FUSION ROCKET.... ;)?<<

BIG MASS FUSION ROCKET!!!


9 posted on 05/01/2018 8:21:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: freedumb2003

Biden:” the rocket is one BFD”! LOL!


10 posted on 05/01/2018 8:49:42 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: rarestia

“SLS is years behind thanks to government. The Obama administration hamstrung the American space program, and now they’re trying to play catch up.”

obama didn’t help things, but the first statement is the main reason, namely NASA, like ALL gov agencies eventually do, became ossified decades ago, and as a consequence NASA remains firmly in the 20th century ...


11 posted on 05/01/2018 10:55:39 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In spaceflight, deep space is generally accepted as being anything beyond earth orbit. The problem here is that Boeing is trying to compare apples and oranges. Elon Musk has stated himself that he no longer intends to man rate the Falcon Heavy, it’s not trying to compete with SLS. It DOES blow Boeing/ULA’s Delta IV Heavy out of the water and will directly compete for payloads that would have normally only had the option of flying on Delta IV Heavy. It can lift twice as much for a fraction of the cost of a Delta IV Heavy, even in fully expendable mode.

BFR is going to be man rated and compete with SLS, even if SpaceX isn’t admitting that yet. Oh, and just for book keeping purposes, for the 10 billion dollars spent on SLS development up to the end of 2017, not counting infrastructure costs like pad and crawler upgrades, you could have fully funded the development of Falcon Heavy and then had enough left over to buy 63 flights on Falcon Heavy in fully expendable mode. That’s enough lifting capability to send about 1 million kg of payload to Mars. Just saying.


12 posted on 05/02/2018 8:23:43 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Actually it’s far more expensive than Falcon Heavy. To the tune of billions of dollars more expensive. The development cost so far, and it hasn’t even flown yet so that number is still climbing, would be enough to fully develop the Falcon Heavy and fly it in fully expendable mode about 63 times. That’s enough to send about 1 million kg to Mars, or put about 4 million kg in low earth orbit. 4 million kg in low earth orbit would be about the quarter of the known mass of all known satellites ever launched combined, not counting classified payloads of course. Just some numbers to keep in mind.


13 posted on 05/02/2018 8:27:20 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks BenLurkin. Because of the special election in Alabama, the SLS pork barrel is going nowhere (in every sense). This rewarmed version of the Shuttle is headed for nowhere. You've heard of the train to nowhere? The bridge to nowhere? The SLS is Boeing's rocket to nowhere.

14 posted on 05/03/2018 11:08:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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