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German and Polish cyclists feared dead in Mexico
https://www.thelocal.de/ ^ | 5/6/18

Posted on 05/06/2018 5:40:25 PM PDT by BBell

Two cyclists, one German and one Polish, are feared dead in Mexico after authorities found a body in a ravine and other signs they may have plunged off a cliff, investigators said on Friday.

The two men -- Holger Hagenbusch of Germany and Krzysztof Chmielewski of Poland -- had been traveling the world by bicycle, but were reported missing in the state of Chiapas, in southern Mexico.

Investigators believe they may have lost control on a treacherous road between the towns of San Cristobal and Ocosingo and tumbled into the ravine, said local prosecutor Arturo Lievano.

"It's a very accident-prone area," he told radio network Formula.

"It's a very narrow path and the ravine is approximately 200 meters (650 feet) deep. Biking there is actually a very high-risk activity."

Lievano said the German and Polish embassies were working with Mexican authorities and had shared documents and photographs.

"We have clothes, a t-shirt, personal effects and a body" that was discovered on April 26, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: arturolievano; chiapas; cyclists; german; germany; holgerhagenbusch; krzysztofchmielewski; mexico; ocosingo; poland; polish; sancristobal
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It appears to be an accident but being Mexico there is always suspicion of a cover up.
1 posted on 05/06/2018 5:40:25 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Maybe they should have just walked the bikes?


2 posted on 05/06/2018 5:44:24 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: BBell

downhill runs reach beyond 50 mph

at that point one mistake is death

provided your bike is tuned to withstand the set up a natural frequency, you still have to fight nerves and break pads

you need remarkable balls to successfully navigate a downhill mountain leg

period


3 posted on 05/06/2018 5:48:56 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

The downside of extreme risk-taking is that you may not survive it. Many don’t completely grasp that.


4 posted on 05/06/2018 5:53:29 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: BBell

............I think theres a much higher chance that bandidos stopped them, killed them and took their stuff.

The Mexican Cops, like many of our cops, don’t want the truth told.


5 posted on 05/06/2018 5:53:39 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: 2banana

So what do we have here? Eurotrash bicycle dick’s who spend thousands to travel to and bicycle in one of the most godforsaken countries in the world. If the terrain/ rattlesnakes didn’t get them the cartels would.


6 posted on 05/06/2018 5:55:47 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Eddie01
Screw road bikes they suck and always end up killing or maiming their spandex clad riders Ride a real mountain bike 🚴 with shocks and disc brakes and gnarly knobby tires with sealant in thrm to avoid flats I'll bet 100$ these euroweenies (may they Rest In Peace ) were on road bikes
7 posted on 05/06/2018 5:57:25 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Eddie01

I did an 11 mile downhill run on Mt Ranier when I was young and stupid. Pushed off from Paradise Inn and didn’t turn the crank once all the way to Longmkre, WA. No helmet. A French “Bertin” bike that was no great shakes. Couple of motorcyclists came up beside me and one of them taps his speedometer and says “You’re doing 45.” The folly of youth. On the return climb, I remember somebody poking their head out of a van and snapping my pic. You didn’t see many mountain bicyclists in those days.


8 posted on 05/06/2018 6:00:31 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2banana

So what do we have here? Eurotrash bicycle dick’s who spend thousands to travel to and bicycle in one of the most godforsaken countries in the world. If the terrain/ rattlesnakes didn’t get them the cartels would.


9 posted on 05/06/2018 6:05:26 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Back in the late 1950s, when I was around 9 years-old, I had an air speed type speedometer mounted on my handle bars and went down a steep hill on my typical 1950s style bicycle. I got up to almost 50 mph according to the speedometer and finally slowed down at the bottom of the hill. Amazing that I survived as the brakes barely worked.


10 posted on 05/06/2018 6:12:13 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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#9: "Eurotrash bicycle dick’s who spend thousands to travel to and bicycle in one of the most godforsaken countries"

Another poster alluded to the fact that they were probably robbed and killed. Knowing the culture, they were probably robbed, then raped, then killed, and their bodies and bikes dumped into the ravine.

A forensic autopsy in a first-world country is warranted.
 

11 posted on 05/06/2018 6:14:11 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: Bonemaker

I have traveled on that road by bus, and the only road in the US that seems similar to me is the east side of Tioga Pass going up from Nevada to Yosemite. It is a scary road and an accident should not surprise anyone.


12 posted on 05/06/2018 6:15:31 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: Bonemaker

NOT.


13 posted on 05/06/2018 6:16:18 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cen-Tejas

I’m suspicious too just bc Mexico is Mexico. Has to be dirt roads, or at least crummy asphalt. Chiapas is very dangerous, lots of bandidos. The cops are on the take. Did they find their bikes??


14 posted on 05/06/2018 6:18:57 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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Investigators believe they may have lost control on a treacherous road between the towns of San Cristobal and Ocosingo and tumbled into the ravine

Was this two bicyclist or two individuals on a tandem bike?

15 posted on 05/06/2018 6:19:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I had one of those! Mine was about 6” in diameter as I recall, and was made of transparent red plastic. Very cool.


16 posted on 05/06/2018 6:22:37 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: BBell

RIP to both. A little respect for the dead would be nice.


17 posted on 05/06/2018 6:29:25 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

When I was about 11 in 1952, I had a redSchwinn 26 inch with the tank on the frame and coaster brakes. Mom & Dad got me a mechanical speedometer for Christmas (BIG mistake!). I installed it and put it to the test when it started warming up the following spring. I remember it reading 45 down the hill in front of our house...the next thing I knew I was waking up about 8 AM the next day. Knocked out cold for about 12 or 14 hours. Mom and Dad called the doc after they hauled me inside. He said “Is that him screaming.” Dad replied “Yeah.” Doc said “He’ll be ok.” Never did visit the ER! I was told I hit a pothole and went headfirst over the bars. How I made it to adulthood I’ll never know!


18 posted on 05/06/2018 6:32:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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............I think theres a much higher chance that bandidos stopped them, killed them and took their stuff.

I think the fact that it happened to two cyclists at around the same time lends credence to that theory.

19 posted on 05/06/2018 6:32:34 PM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Correction...1962, not 1952.

I’m not THAT old (yet).


20 posted on 05/06/2018 6:32:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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