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Are MS-13 Gang Members Animals?
5/17/18 | savedbygrace

Posted on 05/17/2018 9:14:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace

President Trump referred to MS-13 gang members as animals yesterday, 5/16/18. The media exploded against him, claiming he was referring to all immigrants as animals. As a complete transcript of the discussion proves, the media are wrong.

But was President Trump correct to call MS-13 members animals?

Well, all human beings are in the Animal Kingdom, so technically, science says we are all animals, even MS-13 members.

But Mr Trump’s reference was not a definition, but rather a connotation, a use of the term that many people understand.

Most animals other than human beings have some common behavior that they are compelled by genetics to practice. They kill. However, with certain exceptions mostly related to self-defense, animals kill to eat. They generally do not kill just to kill. MS-13 members kill just to kill.

Also, animals do not generally torture other animals. And the vast majority of animals do not rape others. MS-13 members torture and rape just to torture and rape. So, technically, President Trump's connotation that MS-13 gang members are animals was not correct. Animals are much more humane that MS-13 gang members.

A more apt description of these savages is barbarous. But most Americans fully understood Mr Trump and agree with the concept he was effectively communicating. The media, on the other hand, are effectively communicating that they are in favor of the barbarism of MS-13 gang members. Maybe they are jealous that these barbarians are largely successful behaving in this uncivilized manner without fear of opposition.


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1 posted on 05/17/2018 9:14:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

I would call MS-13 members animals, but why denigrate animals?


2 posted on 05/17/2018 9:16:55 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: savedbygrace

No, they are not high enough on the evolutionary ladder to be called animals.

Just call them targets and have at it.


3 posted on 05/17/2018 9:18:56 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: savedbygrace
Vermin might help the Control-LEFT hand-wringers focus on the social contribution of the MS-13 gang.
4 posted on 05/17/2018 9:18:58 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: savedbygrace

The media are full of it. They know damn well the context and that he was talking about MS13 gang violence.

So now the liberals want to say that MS13 gang members, are just poor immigrants fleeing violence and poverty in their Homeland?????


5 posted on 05/17/2018 9:19:50 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: savedbygrace

Webster’s Dictionary 1828:

Animal is opposed [] to spiritual or rational, which respects the soul and reasoning faculties; as animal nature, spiritual nature, rational nature.


6 posted on 05/17/2018 9:20:25 AM PDT by donna (California Sanctuary State is the latest method for trapping and trading slaves,)
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https://www.loudountimes.com/news/ms—gang-members-convicted-in-gruesome-murder-of-leesburg/article_73d68e1b-cd14-5a07-bfb9-230c629e76cc.html YES


7 posted on 05/17/2018 9:20:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: savedbygrace

They are scum and must be erased!


8 posted on 05/17/2018 9:20:59 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: savedbygrace

Americans know what Trump means and agree. The media sideshow is just that, entertainment for themselves.


9 posted on 05/17/2018 9:22:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: savedbygrace

Animals won’t kill for the fun of it - but MS-13 will.

I wish that the President had made it clear that animals are on a far higher moral plain than the monsters in MS-13.


10 posted on 05/17/2018 9:25:24 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: savedbygrace

Calling someone, or a group of someone’s “animals” is a figure of speech, a colloquialism, and this is well understood.

This is a textbook case of engineered outrage by the left purely constructed and designed to inflict as much political damage as possible with the corrupt MSM amplifying the false outrage. See the ultimately successful attack on George Allen regarding the use of the word, macaca.


11 posted on 05/17/2018 9:25:41 AM PDT by Obadiah
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I was going to post that. We lived nearby at the time. Horrifying.


12 posted on 05/17/2018 9:25:49 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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I never thought Id see the day in my lifetime where Journalists would defend Hamas and MS-13 in the same week..what next, Jeffrey Dahmer, hey he was a good guy, he was just really hungry..how about the Turpin parents who starved their 12 children, maybe the Golden State Killer..ISIS, Al Queda, the Taliban..President Trump was SPECIFICALLY talking about MS-13 as “Animals” which by the way is an insult to animals but that’s a whole other matter..but to take that out deliberately and say he was talking about all Mexicans is just beyond shameful but that is the world we live in today with the Commie press


13 posted on 05/17/2018 9:26:25 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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I was thinking of the time they killed the Veteran out walking in Leesburg and left his wife for dead with her eye gouged out and extensive injuries to her pelvic region


14 posted on 05/17/2018 9:29:04 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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Worse than animals. Animals kill, rip, and tear their prey for the purpose of eating for survival while MS-13 gang members do the same for misguided respect for machismo.


15 posted on 05/17/2018 9:29:25 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Conservatives seek the truth. Democrats seek the power to dictate what truth is.)
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To: savedbygrace

They are worse than animals. Not many animal mean us harm but all of these scumbags do.


16 posted on 05/17/2018 9:30:05 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: savedbygrace
As a complete transcript of the discussion proves, the media are wrong.

Not wrong.

Just despicable, Anti-American, liars.
17 posted on 05/17/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Zarro (It is time to end the Mueller Witch Hunt. End it now.)
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I don't know if they are animals, per se. What they are would be extremely damaged individuals who have no place in a civil society.

We need a realistic plan as to what to do with this growing segment of society (severely damaaged, never able to integrate or function, anti social and possibly dangerous and )

Because living with them with the hope and prayer that they are salvageable aint working.

18 posted on 05/17/2018 9:34:44 AM PDT by riri
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[[Well, all human beings are in the Animal Kingdom,]]

Bzzzt- man was CREATED after the image of God- Not after the image of animals, or evolved from animals- We are a very distinct creation- Believe what you like, but I am created in the image of my creator- not some animal


19 posted on 05/17/2018 9:35:58 AM PDT by Bob434
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Trump is right. Most ppl commenting on MS-13 have never encounter them and are clueless as to their animal-like nature.


20 posted on 05/17/2018 9:38:29 AM PDT by JonPreston
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