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Archaeologist: We have evidence of the presence of Roman legionaries in Poland
Science in Poland ^ | Wednesday, May 9, 2018 | Szymon Zdziebiowski / ekr/ kap/ tr. RL

Posted on 05/28/2018 11:41:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Roman soldiers were present in the area of Kujawy 2 thousand years ago. This is evidenced by discovered fragments of equestrian gear and legionnaire outfits. Many of them were discovered for the first time outside the borders of the Roman Empire, says Dr. Bartosz Kontny. "Among the many donated metal objects there were also numerous fittings made of copper alloy, which turned out to be decorations for equestrian gear and Roman legionaries` clothing, many of them unique in this part of Europe" -- says Dr. Bartosz Kontny from the Institute of Archaeology, University of Warsaw, who identified the objects... "This is the first strong evidence of the actual presence of Roman soldiers in the territory of today`s Poland" -- Kontny believes... As a truly unique object among the analysed artefacts, the archaeologist mentions a gold-plated copper application for a hip belt. It depicts a spear of a beneficiarius, a high-ranking officer of the Roman army. "It was an attribute of his power" -- says the archaeologist. Such a large accumulation of similar Roman objects in other places in the barbarian Europe -- for example in central Germany (where, for example, the local population was recruited to the legions) is clearly associated with physical Roman presence... According to the archaeologist, the Romans could be present in the area of today`s Kujawy for several reasons depending on the period, because the objects attesting to their presence are from 2 to 1.6 thousand years old.

(Excerpt) Read more at scienceinpoland.pap.pl ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 4thcentury; 5thcentury; godsgravesglyphs; poland; pomerania; romanbaltic; romanempire; romangermany; rome
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Solidi found at Gaski, or Wierzbiczany, Inowroctaw District, 5th c.; (unpublished; phot. by M. Rudnicki).

Solidi found at Gaski, or Wierzbiczany, Inowroctaw District, 5th c.; (unpublished; phot. by M. Rudnicki).

1 posted on 05/28/2018 11:41:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Kujawy Latitude : 50 42' 00'' Longitude : 21 21' 00''

Kujawy Latitude : 50 42' 00'' Longitude : 21 21' 00''

2 posted on 05/28/2018 11:47:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

3 posted on 05/28/2018 11:48:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Very Interesting. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 05/28/2018 11:53:30 AM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh. My. Stars!

What a find!

Thanks, SC!

:o]

‘Face


5 posted on 05/28/2018 11:53:57 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Blowing out someone else's candle doesn't make yours shine any brighter. ~~ FB ~~)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Germans annihilated three Roman legions in southern Germany early in the first century. More likely that the artifacts found was booty traded by the Germans to people living in the area where they were found. There is no record of Romans reaching that area with military force. However Romanized Germans may have traded with the locals.


6 posted on 05/28/2018 11:59:00 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

“Solidi found at Gaski”

These are late Roman, post-Constantine (note the cross on the coin on the right).


7 posted on 05/28/2018 12:02:42 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: allendale

Just as likely the possessions of a retired German auxiliary of the Roman army. Quite early in Imperial times the majority of soldiers on the frontiers were non-Roman auxiliaries.


8 posted on 05/28/2018 12:07:00 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: SunkenCiv

thanx as always


9 posted on 05/28/2018 12:09:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: allendale
No, actually, your interpretation is just flat-out wrong. The fact is, the Romans returned to the area east of the Rhine, hunted down Arminius, and he pissed his drawers as he dropped his weapons and ran back into the barbarian wilds. With a few years, his relatives sold his head to the Romans. In recent years a rescue dig in Copenhagen, Denmark turned up, not a medieval or dark ages cemetery, but a Roman one. Roman finds continually turn up farther east, this being the most recent such finding.

10 posted on 05/28/2018 12:13:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: morphing libertarian; Monkey Face; txnativegop; CondorFlight; buwaya

My pleasure.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3658793/posts?page=10#10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1909864/posts


11 posted on 05/28/2018 12:16:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: allendale
The Teutoburger Forest, where the 3 legions under Varus were annihilated in A.D. 9, is in northern Germany.

Velleius Paterculus, a contemporary Roman historian, explained Varus' mistake: he thought that because the Germans had human shape and human voices, that they were human.

A little bitter, it appears.

12 posted on 05/28/2018 12:25:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: allendale

Was the 9th legion among them?


13 posted on 05/28/2018 12:29:06 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s amazing how far the reach of the Roman Empire extended. There are stories of Chinese armies using Roman formations (having been trained by captured Roman soldiers).


14 posted on 05/28/2018 12:34:41 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: allendale

That is also what I was thinking. The presence of Roman military artifacts does not necessarily mean there were Roman military personnel.


15 posted on 05/28/2018 1:00:35 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I have the easiest life in the history of the world.)
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To: ExpatCanuck

It is. There’s an old rumor, and it’s in China rather than in Europe. Trade links (by land and sea) existed among the Han dynasty of China, the Roman Empire, the Mauryan empire of India, and the intervening territories. Long before the 15th c and Zheng He, the Chinese sent a trade mission and ambassador to made contact with the Romans. Their expedition arrived in the Persian Gulf shortly after Trajan’s new province of Mesopotamia had been unceremoniously dumped by his successor, the homosexual pedophile Hadrian. Somewhat later Han court records refer to the arrival of a Roman ambassador (likely a seagoing trade expedition) from Marcus Aurelius.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/liquan/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/romansinchina/index?tab=articles

http://www.google.com/search?q=the+jews+of+kaifeng+site:freerepublic.com


16 posted on 05/28/2018 1:21:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

The lost legion...

Or just a guy who went awol


17 posted on 05/28/2018 1:30:24 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: ExpatCanuck

No. Varus forces consisted of Legion XVII, XVIII, and XIX
plus 6 cohorts of auxiliary troops and three squadrons of cavalry.


18 posted on 05/28/2018 1:53:29 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: SunkenCiv

Marking for later.


19 posted on 05/28/2018 2:22:41 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("Progressivism" is as every kind of evil: it can never create, only corrupt and destroy.)
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To: Bull Snipe

Thanks for the info! This will make fascinating reading for me.


20 posted on 05/28/2018 2:26:57 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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