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Evangelical leaders downplay potential Roe v. Wade reversal
Associated Press ^ | Jun 30, 2018 4:56 PM EDT | Steve Peoples

Posted on 06/30/2018 5:49:24 PM PDT by Olog-hai

For evangelical Christian leaders like Jerry Falwell Jr., this is their political holy grail.

Like many religious conservatives in a position to know, the Liberty University president with close ties to the White House suspects that the Supreme Court vacancy President Donald Trump fills in the coming months will ultimately lead to the reversal of the landmark abortion case Roe v. Wade. But instead of celebrating publicly, some evangelical leaders are downplaying their fortune on an issue that has defined their movement for decades.

“What people don’t understand is that if you overturn Roe v. Wade, all that does is give the states the right to decide whether abortion is legal or illegal,” Falwell told The Associated Press in an interview. “My guess is that there’d probably be less than 20 states that would make abortion illegal if given that right.”

Falwell added: “In the ’70s, I don’t know how many states had abortion illegal before Roe v. Wade, but it won’t be near as many this time.”

The sentiment, echoed by evangelical leaders across the country this past week, underscores the delicate politics that surround a moment many religious conservatives have longed for. With the retirement of swing vote Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, Trump and his Republican allies in the Senate plan to install a conservative justice who could re-define the law of the land on some of the nation’s most explosive policy debates — none bigger than abortion. …

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykillers; roevwade; supremecourt

1 posted on 06/30/2018 5:49:24 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“What people don’t understand is that if you overturn Roe v. Wade, all that does is give the states the right to decide whether abortion is legal or illegal,”

States’ Rights to decide if Capital Murder is legal or illegal?


2 posted on 06/30/2018 5:57:13 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

I don’t like the “libertarian” argument either. Why are they even discussing it?


3 posted on 06/30/2018 5:59:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Blue House Sue

“States’ Rights to decide if Capital Murder is legal or illegal?”

Yep! Murder is a state crime. Federal law normally doesn’t cover it.

https://www.wklaw.com/10-ways-murder-becomes-a-federal-crime/


4 posted on 06/30/2018 6:01:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Olog-hai

““The left is going to try very hard to say this is all about overturning Roe,” said Johnnie Moore, a Southern Baptist minister who was a co-chairman of the Trump campaign’s evangelical advisory board. The more significant shift on the high court, he said, would likely be the help given to conservatives in their fight for what they call religious freedom.”

I agree. Only the AP would call this “the best of times” for religious people. We ARE under attack, and the power of government has been used increasingly to crush Christians. Things unthinkable 25 years ago are now common place. Heck, Bill Clinton signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act - which passed the Senate 97-3 in 1993.

Is there any doubt the same act would be filibustered by Democrats today, and that many Republicans would vote against it as well?


5 posted on 06/30/2018 6:06:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers

>>Only the AP would call this “the best of times” for religious people. We ARE under attack, and the power of government has been used increasingly to crush Christians. Things unthinkable 25 years ago are now common place.

It is a great time to be secure in your faith as the nation’s commitment to God crumbles and the culture ridicules us. We may very well be called upon to be America’s Dietrich Bonhoeffer in our lifetimes.

Remember, in Christ you don’t really die.


6 posted on 06/30/2018 6:19:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Very good points, sadly.


7 posted on 06/30/2018 6:21:12 PM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Evangelical” is a term the poll companies made up in the early 1960s.


8 posted on 06/30/2018 6:26:07 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Mr Rogers

Democrats openly booed God, Israel, and the Boy Scouts at their political convention.

We aren’t in 20th century America anymore.


9 posted on 06/30/2018 6:29:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: Olog-hai

“Why are they even discussing it?”

Because it is a fact. If Roe is overturned, then it reverts back to the States. In order to ban abortion nationwide, you need either 1) a constitutional amendment or 2) an act of Congress that would pass muster with SCOTUS.


10 posted on 06/30/2018 6:34:27 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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I passionately dislike the idea that some conservatives promote that overturning Roe vs. Wade has to be downplayed so a Justice must be selected who has never taken a strong stand against Roe vs. Wade.

That approach resulted in Justice Souter.

That approach resulted in Justice Kennedy.

Protecting preborn babies is not something to be ashamed of and hidden.

Protecting preborn babies is something to be proud of and shown.


11 posted on 06/30/2018 6:39:35 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Ken H

I meant, why are they giving credence to the left’s premise?


12 posted on 06/30/2018 6:43:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Before Roe, it was Reagan’s CA, Rockefeller’s NY, Love’s CO, and I think HI who encouraged legal abortion. Far more than four states will keep the popular but infamous practice. I can envision the outcry when TX “girls” have to go to Albuquerque to get their abortion, or LA “girls” to FL.


13 posted on 06/30/2018 6:45:04 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: a fool in paradise

The Boy Scouts were so offended by the Democrats’ invective that they would end up joining them!


14 posted on 06/30/2018 6:46:21 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Apparently some within the organization liked their initiation into homosexuality via the Scouts and wanted to see other youth given the same “education”.


15 posted on 06/30/2018 6:50:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: Olog-hai

The Roe vs. Wade decision by the SCOTUS.. Is a symptom. Not the disease. The sickness is the darknees and absense of God inside some peoples hearts. And NO law can cleanse a heart.


16 posted on 07/01/2018 2:08:01 AM PDT by Ikeon (The Dread Pirate Flint. ARRRRGH!.)
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To: Ken H

“If Roe is overturned, then it reverts back to the States. In order to ban abortion nationwide, you need either 1) a constitutional amendment or 2) an act of Congress that would pass muster with SCOTUS.”

That is the most likely scenario. However, a strict interpretation of the Constitution could easily find a “right to life” (in the 5th amendment) that invalidated any laws permitting abortion. They could rule that during any method of ending a pregnancy, every reasonable effort must be made to preserve the life of the child.


17 posted on 07/01/2018 12:10:25 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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