This seems like a good time to reiterate a few things.
The "Fired For Cause" event with an associated point-value of "1" has been in place since the very beginning of the Metric. Here is a link to an early post of mine with the "JB Event-Point System" from June 8. You may note the formatting and even name are slightly different, but the "Fired for Cause" event is there. I did not just add this last week when the revolting Peter Strzok finally got the ax.
So, why even do this? Presumably people on this thread read and for the most part believe Q, though of course interpretations sometimes differ about what some of the more obscure drops mean. But several of the Q posts dealing with firings have been some of the most clearly and unambiguously worded. Am I just doing this to "prove" that Q is wrong or a fake? No, I am not. Quite the contrary. I view this as just another tool, among many, for watching the gradual roll-out and roll- up of what I have termed "the counter-coup", wherein the Deep State actors who have tried to take down Trump are themselves brought to justice.
But I do maintain that there is a useful purpose in tracking what an average "normie" knows, or might now with a minimal amount of research of generally accepted sources. Now, like a lot of other people here I enjoy reading various bloggers and watching YouTube. But, if a casual acquaintance says "No one has ever been punished from the FBI for anything having to do with the Russia Investigation, I do not want to refer them to Neon Revolt to debunk that claim. The best possible source for debunking it would be their own left-biased MSM - "Look, Jerry, it was on the front page of the damned NY Times!. What the hell do you want?". This metric is designed to be "Q agnostic"; if you it is a list of what has been widely reported and acknowledged. It is not a list of everything Q has revealed. (We have the entire rest of the thread for that, along with all the background information in ransmomnote'sthread-opener.
Maybe some of you have no friends or relatives who are anywhere on the "Freaking Commie -> Basic Libtard -> Uninformed Centrist" continuim of blue pill addicts. I do. And so this Metric will continue to be based on widely reported things. Not what Q has told us. It interesting to note the difference between Q and the MSM, which is somewhere between Q unaware and Q hostile, depending on outlet. But you know, even the Q hostile media had to report on McCabe and Strzok being fired, tHere is just no way to dress that up.
Also, because my main focus has always been on the ongoing Coup to bring down Trump, my focus has always been on the acts of the Coup plotters, and the steps being taken to bring them down and to justice. So, again pretty early on, I decided that I would only include firings of people connected with the Deep State Coup that have taken place since the Mueller appointment May 7, 2017. This has been explained in Note 1 on the main Metric table for a long time now. I think it's a reasonable decision. At the beginning of a new administration, even if it's the same party, but more so when it's a new one, lots and lots of people leave. Many resignations are required, by tradition, and it's not at all unusual for the people under the secretary level, two or three levels down to leave and return the private sector.
It's great that so many people, including corrupt FedGov employees reisgned and continue to resign in far flung departments like the VA, but it would only add noise to track all them. So, I am focused on the orgs and people involved in the Deep State Coup: principally the FBI, DOJ, and eventually hopefully the CIA, State Department and Obama White House.
So, anyway bagster gave me a list of people who he insists (presumably based on Q drops or their reliable interpreters) have been FIRED. (Caps in the original). Here it is:
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| FBI Agents No Longer with the FBI
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|---|
| Jim Rybicki - FIRED |
| James Baker - FIRED |
| Andrew McCabe - FIRED |
| James Comey -FIRED |
| Lisa Page -FIRED |
| Mike Kortan - FIRED |
| Josh Campbell - FIRED |
| David Laufman - FIRED |
| John Carlin - FIRED |
| Sally Yates - FIRED |
| Mary McCord - FIRED |
| Rachel Brand - FIRED |
So, I have diligently reseached each of these. I have tried, in the first instance to look at the right-of-center MSM like the NY Daily News and Washington Times for stories about their departures, trying to get to what the overall perception was of their leaving. And I realized I needed a bit more nuance. There are resignations and then there are "resignations".
I have tried to dig through these and answer the question: "whitout refernce to Q would someone doing some basic due dilligance feel this person had left on good terms, or just ahead of a scandal".
As is my habit I have created a couple new clarifying terms.
| CODE | MEANING |
|---|---|
| OOR | Out of Range; departure before May 7, 2017 |
| NVAF | Not Verified As Firing: everything in the MSM indicated a normal departure |
| RTAF | Resigned To Avoid Firing: obvious scandals, MSM infers resignation to avoid being fired. |
After completeing this review I have decided to "show my work" as there is a lot of interesting information here. Obviously, just because someone said they were retiring as planned, and that is all that is reported, doesn't mean that is the whole story. It may well be that, over time, some of these change. It may be that Q's entire list end up behind bars when 40,000 sealed affadavits are unsealed and the US Marines go door-to-door detaining Coup plotters in a martial law crackdown. Time will tell.
But, right now this is what we have.
I have decided after completing this review to add all those officals I've researched who I have given the "RTAF" rating to (still, a high bar) to the Metric, and assign them a point value of 1/2.
Ultimately any resource like this (like Cook Political Report) comes down to individual judgement calls, so does my metric. I've put some time into it, and will continue to update it, as events progress.
Cheers! -JB
Separated FBI Agents and DOJ Officials
Notes:
AGENT or OFFICIAL
CLAIM
DATE
REPORTED AS
VERIFIED?
NOTES: (FBI unless noted)
Jim Rybicki
FIRED
1/23/2018
Resigned
NO: NVAF
Widely reported he resigned and left on good terms
James Baker
FIRED
5/4/2018
Resigned
YES: RTAF
Resigned same day as Lisa Page..."amid controversy".Went to Lawfare blog.
Andrew McCabe
FIRED
3/16/2018
Fired
YES
Widely reported as Fired
James Comey
FIRED
5/9/2017
Fired
NO: OOR
Comey's firing was the pretext for appointing Mueller, not a reaction to it.
Lisa Page
FIRED
5/5/2018
Resigned
YES: RTAF
skepticism at 'she resigned “voluntarily.”'
Mike Kortan
FIRED
2/8/2018
Retired
NO: NVAF
FBI PR guy: Two more officials cited in FBI texts step down, (Note 1)
Josh Campbell
FIRED
2/2/2018
Resigned
NO: NVAF
Resignation letter published in NY Times. (Note 3)
David Laufman
FIRED
2/8/2018
Resigned
YES: RTAF
DoJ CounterIntel: Two more officials cited in FBI texts step down Also:Hugh Hewitt analysis"(Note 2)
John Carlin
FIRED
9/27/2016
Resigned
NO: OOR
Head of DOJ National Security Div. Resigned before election.
Sally Yates
FIRED
1/30/2017
Fired
NO: OOR
Not FBI, DOJ: Acting A.G.after Lynch - Fired for insubordination refusing to implement Muslim ban
Mary McCord
FIRED
4/20/2017
Resigned.
NO: NVAR
Replaced John Carlin at DOJ NSD. One month notice given.
Rachel Brand
FIRED
2/9/2018
Resigned
NO: NVAF
#3 at DOJ. Left for EVP job at WalMart.(Note 4)
Peter Strzok
FIRED
8/13/2018
Fired
YES
Widely reported he was fired
1. "Kortan, who has headed the FBI’s media operation since 2009, has told colleagues for months or longer that he was on the verge of retirement. The imminent nature of his departure was first reported by Fox News." - Politico reporting
2. "The press reporting is that he offered his resignation yesterday, effective IMMEDIATELY. That's what happens when you are told that your are the subject of an OPR or OIG investigation.
3. "After more than a decade of service, which included investigating terrorism, working to rescue kidnapping victims overseas and being special assistant to the director, I am reluctantly turning in my badge and leaving an organization I love. Why? So I can join the growing chorus of people who believe that the relentless attacks on the bureau undermine not just America’s premier law enforcement agency but also the nation’s security. My resignation is painful, but the alternative of remaining quiet while the bureau is tarnished for political gain is impossible. - Josh Campbells public resignation letter, NY Times, link above
4. "Asked about the impetus for Brand's departure, one associate who asked not to be named said, "Because she is very smart, accomplished, and talented, and wants to protect her career""- Politico reporting
Related Links
An interesting twitter thread by Praying Medic, who kept track of each of these as they happened includes pictures of most of the people listed above.
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Verifiable Event Based Scoring Metric
Mueller vs. Team Trump
| Metric Revision | 2 |
|---|---|
| Metric Version | 10 |
| Last Update | 8/17/2018 |
| JB EVENT-POINT SYSTEM | |
| EVENT | POINTS |
|---|---|
| Resigned to Avoid Firing | ½ |
| Public Firing for Cause | 1 |
| Indictmnet for Lying | 2 |
| Indictment for Actual Crime | 3 |
| Guilty Plea or Conviction, Lying | 3 |
| Conviction for Actual Crime | 5 |
| Indictment of Russians in Russia | zero |
| TEAM | EVENT | RESULT | SCORE |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mueller | Flynn | Guilty Plea | 3 |
| Mueller | Papadapolis | Guilty Plea | 3 |
| Mueller | Gates | Guilty Pleas | 3 |
| Mueller | Evgeny Freidman | Guilty Plea | 3 |
| Mueller | Alex Van Der Zwaan | Guilty Plea | 3 |
| Mueller | Manaforte | Indicted for Actual Crime | 2 |
| Mueller | Richard Pinedo, | Guilty Plea, forgery | 5 |
| Mueller | 13 Russians | Indicted, in Russia | 0 |
| Mueller | 2 Russian Companies | Indicted, in Russia | 0 |
| Mueller | Concorde Consulting | Indicted, in USA | 3 |
| Mueller | 12 Russian GRU officers | Indicted, in Russia | 0 |
| Trump | McCabe | Public Firing | 1 |
| Trump | Strzok | Public Firing | 1 |
| Trump | James A Wolfe | Indicted for Lying to FBI | 2 |
| Trump | Lisa Page | Resigned To Avoid Firing | ½ |
| Trump | David Laufman | Resigned To Avoid Firing | ½ |
| Trump | James Baker | Resigned To Avoid Firing | ½ |
| TOTAL SCORE | |
| Team Mueller | 25 |
| Team Trump | 5½ |
Notes:
1.Start date for Index is the date of Mueller appointment, May 17, 2017. Firings prior to that, or firings for matters unrelated the the Deep State Coup investigation and counter-investigation, are not included in the Index but are available on this link, and also included as a link from post #1 on all Qanon threads.
Since this is a “Q” thread then reports from “Q” should (CLEARLY!) take precedence over MSM
Prior Posts #1807 + #1288
Jim Rybicki - Chief of Staff (JC) - FIRED
James Baker - Office of General Counsel - FIRED
Points for yanking clearances and blasting by POTUS on Twitter?
Amaroso? No points for that?
TL/DR MBS PDEDTSA THBAPSAOBOTWQT
I understand the usefulness and purpose of your metric.
A Treat of an educational presentation of truth.
Thank you. Nice work!
Sorry but “fired” just ain’t good enough.
I stopped reading after this credibility buster.
GREAT WORK, and commentary! I fully concur with your reasoning, and results. This is an outstanding method for tracking an extremely complicated and dynamic battlefield. Thankfully a few more points were finally scored by the good guys, but obviuosly still a very long way to go just to catch up where it counts. Thanks again!
Awesome work!
I like the new changes to your chart. Thank you for being an inQuisitive, critical thinker and keeping us on our toes.
May your list explode with Trump successes!
Wall Street journal is right of center? Dang, who knew?
Yawn. Hope it gives your odd circle of acquaintances who you see is leaning commie, something to think about. I’d say it’s doubtful as those leaning that way rarely take the necessary effort to see the facts and digest them.
No secret that I find your score board obnoxious and self serving, you talk more than anyone I know and yet you say so little.
Right of center, pffft