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Church in Prague receives relic of Czech Marco Polo [Odoric of Pordenone]
Radio Czech ^ | September 12, 2018 | Tom McEnchroe

Posted on 09/18/2018 10:33:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

I, brother Odoric, a Czech from Turlania,...crossed the sea and visited the land of the unbelievers intending to harvest some of their souls. I will not mention all that I have seen...For I would have not believed it myself, if I had not heard it and seen it with my own ears and eyes.

Thus begins the 'The Journey into the Empire of the Great Khan', a book of recollections written in the 14th century by Czech priest, Odoric of Pordenone, who set out for China in 1318, after being commissioned by the Pope to establish contact with the its Mongol rulers.

Crossing Persia and Tibet, his journey would eventually take him beyond the Middle Empire, as far as the Philippines, where he was the first priest to conduct Christmas mass.

Yet despite the extraordinary life of this Czech Marco Polo, Odoric is virtually unknown in the country and wider Europe as a whole.

"Odoric was historically unlucky. His account was discovered by a French author and plagiarised in the 1350s, becoming a collection of travellers' tales, which we know today as the 'The Travels of Sir John Mandeville', so Odoric's own story was forgotten. His book was eventually published in Czechoslovakia in 1962, but that was more than half a century ago."

The reason why Odoric is from Pordenone and not a more Czech sounding settlement, is because he was born in 13th century Northern Italy, to a Czech soldier serving in the army of Premysl Ottokar II., as it was campaigning in Friuli.

It is also in Pordenone where Odoric's body lies today, in a church specially built to resemble a Mongol tent.

(Excerpt) Read more at radio.cz ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: czechrepublic; friuli; godsgravesglyphs; italy; johnmandeville; marcopolo; odoricofpordenone; persia; philippines; pordenone; premyslottokarii; sirjohnmandeville; tibet
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Odoric of Pordenone relic was delivered to the Church of Our Lady of the Snows, photo: Zdenka Kuchynová

Odoric of Pordenone relic was delivered to the Church of Our Lady of the Snows, photo: Zdenka Kuchynová

1 posted on 09/18/2018 10:33:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

2 posted on 09/18/2018 10:38:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why do catholic clergy wear dresses? You would think with all the sex scandals that they would wear big boy pants.


3 posted on 09/18/2018 10:40:28 PM PDT by rexthecat
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The City of Light: The Hidden Journal of the Man Who Entered China Four Years Before Marco Polo
The City of Light:
The Hidden Journal of the Man
Who Entered China Four Years Before Marco Polo

by Jacob D'Ancona
tr by David Selbourne

4 posted on 09/18/2018 10:43:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Legends of the Chinese Jews of Kaifeng
Legends of the Chinese Jews of Kaifeng
by Xin Xu
tr by Beverly Friend
illus by Ting Cheng

reviewed

5 posted on 09/18/2018 10:44:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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Christians in China: A.D. 600 to 2000 Christians in China: A.D. 600 to 2000
by Father Jean Charbonnier,
contributions by David Notley,
tr. by M. N. L. Couve de Murville


6 posted on 09/18/2018 10:45:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Eleutheria5; SJackson
Being Italian and into Aramaic studies, I found the following article about Pasta in the Talmud nothing less than fascinating. ?

The first clear Western reference to boiled noodles, Perry says, is in the Jerusalem Talmud of the fifth century A.D., written in Aramaic. The authors debated whether or not noodles violated Jewish dietary laws. (Today only noodles made of matzoh meal are kosher for Passover.) They used the word itriyah, thought by some scholars to derive from the Greek itrion, which referred to a kind of flatbread used in religious ceremonies. By the tenth century, it appears, itriyah in many Arabic sources referred to dried noodles bought from a vendor, as opposed to fresh ones made at home. Other Arabic sources of the time refer to fresh noodles as lakhsha, a Persian word that was the basis for words in Russian, Hungarian, and Yiddish. (By comparison with these words, noodle, which dates from sixteenth-century German, originated yesterday.)


Pasta in the Talmud | Steve Caruso | September 15, 2007

8 posted on 09/18/2018 11:12:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: rexthecat
Why do Scotsmen wear kilts?.

9 posted on 09/18/2018 11:28:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: PraiseTheLord
No caption, too wide.

10 posted on 09/18/2018 11:41:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
Mongolian tent

Yo, Gurt, that's a yert.

11 posted on 09/19/2018 1:42:26 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting piece of historical information. It’s too bad he is not more widely known.


12 posted on 09/19/2018 5:30:43 AM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: rexthecat
Catholic vestments are derived from the every-day clothes of ancient Rome (with a few exceptions, for example the surplice originates from the Celtic alb). Originally clergy wore what was regular clothing, albeit their nicest set. Fashion gradually changed, while the Church retained vestments for various reasons. The cassock was originally a vestis talaris, a regular tunic worn every day. The cope has been mostly discarded by the Latin rite, except in Tridentine rite. But when used, the priest wears in when approaching the altar, in outdoor processions, and removes it when mass begins -- originated simply as a cloak, which is reflected in it's modern ceremonial use.

May as well ask why Scots wear kilts or Japanese wear Kimonos. Some traditions endure.

13 posted on 09/19/2018 5:31:13 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: SunkenCiv

Q: How many birds can fit under a Scotsman’s kilt?

A: Depends on the size of the perch.


14 posted on 09/19/2018 9:23:22 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (I posit that there IS something left worth fighting for.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No caption, too wide.
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Sorry. Just grabbed the first thing that came to mind to show priests wearing suits to show that poster. So I just left it the size that it was. :(


15 posted on 09/19/2018 10:43:10 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord ( .Q.)
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To: PraiseTheLord

Thx.


16 posted on 09/19/2018 12:15:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Chinese and Italian racists colluding for noodles.


17 posted on 09/19/2018 12:20:44 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hadn’t heard of this guy. According to Wiki, he visited lots of places besides China. Are there any English translations of his diaries?


18 posted on 09/19/2018 5:23:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Probably, I haven’t had time to look yet. :^)


19 posted on 09/19/2018 11:45:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Eleutheria5

“colluding for noodles” sounds like a reality show idea... hmm...


20 posted on 09/19/2018 11:50:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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