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Nancy Pelosi Describes Supernatural Encounter with Pro-Life Feminists
Cybercast News Service ^ | October 3, 2018 | 11:53 AM EDT | Emily Ward

Posted on 10/03/2018 9:11:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: stanne

“Birth control is the genesis of abortion”

What does that mean?

“Very inconvenient I realize people think they can be against abortion and pro birth control. They cannot”

Yes people can. To be accurate birth control really isn’t birth control, it’s conception control just like Natural Family Planning. The purpose is to prevent contraception. In contrast abortion is birth control, it prevents birth AFTER contraception has occurred.


41 posted on 10/03/2018 2:25:24 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

The attitude of preventing procreation is the root of both birth control and surgical abortion.

Also, there are pharmaceutical birth control which aborts the embryo which is not well known nor discussed as those who would like to prevent birth don’t get involved in the details. However when the numbers are up and pharmaceutical abortion is included the 54,000,000 number of abortions since 1973 in the US (not counting the export we provide) doubles


42 posted on 10/03/2018 2:35:29 PM PDT by stanne
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To: dynoman

Birth control is conception control. Ok. Now we’ve got
Pretzel logic. It’s a bad tactic. It provides cover for lies.

I am sure that people who don’t want to conceive don’t want to do so for the purpose of preventin birth. And you know that. You’re wasting my time

I will add this. Birth control pills are carcinogenic. The same class as cigarettes too, but Google. Has taken down the CDC report. The hormone screw up they provide causes breast cancer. In women. Not in men. There is no such detriment to men. Only the mothers and babies


43 posted on 10/03/2018 2:42:10 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I see you got my point.

Natural Family Planning is “preventing procreation”. No way around it.

Are people who practice Natural Family Planning condemned to hell? What about people who used other methods of contraception control?


44 posted on 10/03/2018 2:43:36 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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No one is condemned to hell. That’s not what we’re talking about. We don’t judge each other.


45 posted on 10/03/2018 2:47:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

What’s the point then?


46 posted on 10/03/2018 2:51:40 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: stanne

“Birth control is conception control. Ok. Now we’ve got
Pretzel logic. It’s a bad tactic. It provides cover for lies.”

It’s not pretzel logic. The factual order is conception, embryo, birth. If there is no conception there cannot be a birth.

Calling conception prevention, including Natural Family Planning, “birth control”, is a lie of omission.


47 posted on 10/03/2018 2:53:00 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Natural Family Planning is different. It is is open to procreation, it takes communication and enhances the relationship rather than destroying it as birth control does (statistically) and is often only done for certain legit reasons and not just for convenience


48 posted on 10/03/2018 2:55:04 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

That made me laugh. And thank you for not condemning those who disagree with your opinion to hell.


49 posted on 10/03/2018 2:59:29 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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It’s done to not have conception. When there’s conception as an accident, abortion takes place

It’s all birth control


50 posted on 10/03/2018 3:00:26 PM PDT by stanne
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“When there’s conception as an accident, abortion takes place”

Wow, how would you know that every accidental conception results in an abortion?

I think you don’t know that, and I think that’s wrong.


51 posted on 10/03/2018 3:03:04 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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It’s conception control When it doesn’t work abortion occurs. This is what makes conception control, as you euphemistically put it, the Genesis of abortion

People who practice conception control do not accept a pregnancy with joy. They kill it.


52 posted on 10/03/2018 3:04:25 PM PDT by stanne
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Ya, women on birth control pill says to sex partner I’m pregnant they’re very pleased and accept the child as any loving parents living as a family.

Ok We’re done here


53 posted on 10/03/2018 3:09:41 PM PDT by stanne
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To: dynoman

BS with a capital BS


54 posted on 10/03/2018 3:33:27 PM PDT by advertising guy (The manliest man Obama knows is married to him.)
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A eugenecist, Sanger was all for the destruction of the offspring of “human weeds” and the “mud races.” She said the most humane thing impoverished parents could do for their infant was to kill it.


55 posted on 10/03/2018 5:43:48 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Bullfeathers. By your reasoning women who have had a hysterectomy are pro abortion because they have taken the procreation out of sex Same for menopausal women


56 posted on 10/03/2018 5:49:09 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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“She [Sanger] believed that while abortion was sometimes justified it should generally be avoided...”

Sounds like Bill Clinton. Abortion should be safe, legal and rare. I didn’t realize Clinton was also against abortion.


57 posted on 10/03/2018 5:51:43 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: stanne

You can’t speak for everyone,just yourself.


58 posted on 10/03/2018 8:54:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Read;

https://www.redstate.com/ironchapman/2013/01/23/what-did-margaret-sanger-think-about-abortion/


59 posted on 10/03/2018 8:56:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I know What the murderer said early but later said
Some do not deserve life ,


60 posted on 10/03/2018 9:06:06 PM PDT by advertising guy (The manliest man Obama knows is married to him.)
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