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Monica Lewinsky disagrees with Hillary on whether Bill Clinton's affair was an 'abuse of power'
Business Insider ^ | 3/15/2018 | Alex Loxkie

Posted on 10/15/2018 10:14:51 AM PDT by simpson96

Hillary Clinton has defended her husband, Bill Clinton, over his affair with Monica Lewinsky by directly contradicting Lewinsky's characterization of what happened.

In 1995, when Lewinsky was a 22-year-old White House intern, she had multiple sexual encounters with the then-president, which he later lied under oath about.

After the affair became public, Lewinsky was targeted by pundits belonging to both parties and reported feeling bullied to the point of feeling suicidal.

Back in March, a few months into the #MeToo movement of women coming forward with allegations of sexual misconduct, mostly against powerful men, Lewinsky wrote that she had been moved to tears and deeply empathized with the accusers.

"What transpired between Bill Clinton and myself was not sexual assault, although we now recognize that it constituted a gross abuse of power," she wrote in Vanity Fair.

But during an interview on "CBS Sunday Morning," the former first lady gave a different version of events.

"In retrospect, do you think Bill should've resigned in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal?" the CBS correspondent Tony Dokoupil asked her.

"Absolutely not," Clinton said.

"It wasn't an abuse of power?" Dokoupil continued.

"No, no," Clinton said.

Clinton then redirected the conversation toward President Donald Trump and the numerous accusations of sexual misconduct and assault against him. Lewinsky "was an adult," Clinton said, continuing: "But let me ask you this: Where's the investigation of the current incumbent against whom numerous allegations have been made?"

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Said it before and I'll say it again...

I'm going to pop champagne when I hear the news that this POS is off the planet.

1 posted on 10/15/2018 10:14:51 AM PDT by simpson96
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Cat fight.


2 posted on 10/15/2018 10:16:36 AM PDT by moovova
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“I’m going to pop champagne when I hear the news that this POS is off the planet. “

Which one?

Bill

Hillary

Monica

OR all three?


3 posted on 10/15/2018 10:18:36 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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What went on between 'that woman, Miss Lewinsky,' and Slick Willie was a lot of things, none of them good, but it was not an abuse of power.

If we can believe Monica's own contemporaneous testimony, she pursued Slick, not the other way around. She was the one snapping her thong at him.

4 posted on 10/15/2018 10:22:31 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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The way that BJ acted upon her told me all I need to know about him.

This wasn’t a guy just tying to get his rocks off, he performed the most disgusting deviant acts upon her. He’s a pervert


5 posted on 10/15/2018 10:22:39 AM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President)
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To: Morgana

Are you kidding? Hillary is worse, by a country mile, than the other two.


6 posted on 10/15/2018 10:22:52 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: simpson96
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7 posted on 10/15/2018 10:23:04 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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"Let me say this again, and I want you to listen to me! I did NOT have "sexual relations" with that woman, Ms Blewinsky, nor did I smoke that cigar afterwards"


8 posted on 10/15/2018 10:23:32 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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"Yes, I did in fact have a "relationship" with Blewinsky that was inappropriate."


9 posted on 10/15/2018 10:23:46 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Yo-Yo
What went on between 'that woman, Miss Lewinsky,' and Slick Willie was a lot of things, none of them good, but it was not an abuse of power.

Nor was it an "affair," as it is called in the article.

Regards,

10 posted on 10/15/2018 10:24:22 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: simpson96

If you’re going to question “abuse of power”, then you’ve got to ask.... Would Monica have engaged in the same activity if 50 some-odd year Clinton was a busboy in the White House?


11 posted on 10/15/2018 10:25:06 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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...and, sure enough, they'll be some Freeper that will disapprovingly say “we are better than that”. (I will be celebrating with you)
12 posted on 10/15/2018 10:25:32 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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Hillary, being so smart, should know that this is total BS. Bill Clinton was a sexual predator and the women who worked for him, directly and indirectly, were his prey.

Some of his aggressive advances were acknowledged and accepted with sex favors and others were not. Monica said yes, Paula Jones, Kathleen Wiley, Juanita Broaddrick said no.


13 posted on 10/15/2018 10:26:17 AM PDT by dhs12345
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“Are you kidding? Hillary is worse, by a country mile, than the other two.”

Oh I dunno won’t miss either when they all gone.


14 posted on 10/15/2018 10:26:47 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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Lewinsky "was an adult," Clinton said, continuing: "But let me ask you this: Where's the investigation of the current incumbent against whom numerous allegations have been made?"

But Hill, they were all adults...

15 posted on 10/15/2018 10:28:18 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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BELIEVE WOMEN!! (unless of course the allegation is against a Democrat, then don’t believe them).


16 posted on 10/15/2018 10:28:48 AM PDT by Doctor Freeze
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There was no power to it - it just barely oozed out onto her dress....


17 posted on 10/15/2018 10:31:41 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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Has Bill Clinton ever said that he cared, even a little bit, about Monica?


18 posted on 10/15/2018 10:33:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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So the Dems are desperately trying to create a “Me Too” / Republicans Hate Women theme for the 2018 elections to gin up their voter turnout. And what does tin ear Hillary do? Stomp all over it with a high profile interview that reminds the world that the Dems only care about women when its to their advantage, and couldn’t care less about Me Too if it means one of their senior politicians is getting hit with it. And then she extends that news cycle by picking a fight with Monica Lewinsky. LOL. I don’t think there has ever been a more tone-deaf politician than Hillary.


19 posted on 10/15/2018 10:33:20 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Sex, Power, and the Systems That Enable Men Like Harvey Weinstein

Dacher Keltner
October 13, 2017

When I first heard accounts of film producer Harvey Weinstein’s predatory behavior, my mind devised punishments fitting for Renaissance Europe or the film A Clockwork Orange: Cover his face with a shame mask widely used centuries ago in Germany; shock his frontal lobes so that he’d start empathizing with the women he’s preyed on. When we learn of injustice, it’s only human to focus on how to eliminate or punish the person responsible.

But my research into the social psychology of power suggests that — without exculpating corrupt individuals — we also need to take a hard look at the social systems in which they commit their abuses.

For 25 years, I and other social scientists have documented how feeling powerful can change how ordinary citizens behave — what might be called the banality of the abuses of power. In experiments in which one group of people is randomly assigned to a condition of power, people in the ”powerful” group are prone to two shortcomings: They develop empathy deficits and are less able to read others’ emotions and take others’ perspectives. And they behave in an impulsive fashion — they violate the ethics of the workplace. In one experiment, participants in power took candy from children without blinking an eye.

Our research also shows that these two tendencies manifest in inappropriate sexual behavior in male-dominated contexts, echoing the accounts of the women assaulted by Weinstein. Powerful men, studies show, overestimate the sexual interest of others and erroneously believe that the women around them are more attracted to them than is actually the case. Powerful men also sexualize their work, looking for opportunities for sexual trysts and affairs, and along the way leer inappropriately, stand too close, and touch for too long on a daily basis, thus crossing the lines of decorum — and worse.

These findings from laboratory studies tell us that abuses of power are predictable and recurring. So too does a quick reflection on history. While I’ve been studying power, each year there’s been a new example of a powerful man sexually abusing others, and in every imaginable context — religious organizations, the military, Capitol Hill, Wall Street, fraternities, sports, the popular media, tech, labs, and universities.

We should also take a lesson from the now-canonical studies of Stanley Milgram on obedience to authority. Those studies, inspired by Milgram’s quest to understand the conditions that gave rise to Nazi Germany, showed that authoritarian contexts can prompt ordinary, well-meaning citizens to give near-lethal shocks to strangers off the street. In a similar fashion, contexts of unchecked power make many of us vulnerable to, and complicit in, the abuse of power. We may not like what’s going on, but many of us wouldn’t do anything to stop it. This doesn’t excuse the rest of us any more than it excuses the powerful for their crimes, but it should prevent us from telling ourselves the comforting lie that we’d behave better than the people in The Weinstein Company who reportedly knew what Weinstein was doing and failed to put a stop to it.

The challenge, then, is to change social systems in which the abuses of power arise and continue unchecked. And on this the social psychology of power offers some insights.

First, we need to hear tales from those abused by the powerful, as difficult and unsettling as it can be to share these stories. Kudos to the brave people who are calling out the bullying and sexual abuse of Weinstein and others. These tales galvanize social change. For example, when English citizens started to hear the stories about the treatment of slaves on slave ships in the 1700s, the moral calculus of the slave trade started shifting, and antislavery laws followed. Telling such stories also functions as a means by which those with less power construct the reputations of those in power and constrain their impulsive tendencies.

We are also learning of the many benefits of women rising to positions of power, from lower rates of corruption to more-profitable bottom lines. Hollywood is one of the most male-dominated sectors, where only 4% directors are female; more female directors and producers would change the balance of power in filmmaking. Studies show this kind of systemic change will reduce the likelihood of sexual abuse. For example, ethnic minorities are more likely to be targeted in hate crimes as the numerical advantage enjoyed by whites increases. Greater numerical balance between people of different groups constrains the abuses of power: Those from less powerful groups have more allies, they are more likely to be watchfully present in the contexts in which the powerful abuse power, and they are more likely to feel empowered to speak truth to power.

Finally, we need to take on the myths that sustain the abuses of power. Social scientists have documented how coercive power structures sustain themselves through social myths, which most typically justify the standing and unfettered action of those at the top. We’ve heard them before: “Women aren’t biologically equipped to lead.” “African Americans aren’t worthy of the vote.” “He may scream at people and cross some lines, but he’s a genius.” And a favorite in Hollywood: “Women are turned on by men with power like Weinstein.” Actual scientific studies find something quite different: When women (and men) are placed into positions of less power, their anxiety, self-consciousness, and worry rise dramatically, and their pleasure and delight, including sexual, are turned off.

This moment has the potential to become a tipping point in the fight against systemic sexual assault. For it to live up to the promise of this billing, we have to recognize the banality of Harvey Weinstein, and turn our attention to changing the social context in ways that make the human tendency to abuse power a thing of the past.

https://hbr.org/2017/10/sex-power-and-the-systems-that-enable-men-like-harvey-weinstein

20 posted on 10/15/2018 10:34:27 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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