Posted on 11/07/2018 10:06:50 AM PST by Brian Griffin
the CURRRNT min wage causes illegal employment.
If we consistently enforced the existing law ($5K per illegal?) nationwide the problrm would dry up.
Build a wall and deport and wages will rise naturally.
“The existing law” is an easily avoided sham.
Ten million illegals in the workplaces of the USA are evidence of the flaws in the existing law.
The Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to do this, and it’s a bad idea even if it did.
The goal needs to be higher wages, not basic subsistence. Rising wages across the board moots the idea of a minimum wage. The problem is lack of labor demand especially in unskilled and low-skilled fields where illegals compete directly with Americans and drive down wages.
“build a wall”
From the “moderate” bill:
AVAILABILITY OF BORDER WALL SYSTEM FUNDS.
(1) IN GENERAL.Of the amount appropriated in subsection (a)(1)
(A) $2,241,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2018;
(B) $1,808,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2019;
(C) $1,715,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2020;
(D) $2,140,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2021;
(E) $1,735,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2022;
(F) $1,746,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2023;
(G) $1,776,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2024;
(H) $1,746,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2025; and
(I) $1,718,000,000 shall become available October 1, 2026.”
A Trump wall might not get fully built until October 1, 2031.
My proposal would have Mexico building walls with Mexican money.
“The Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to do this”
The Constitution empowers the federal government to stop invasions and defend our effective voting rights.
The Voting Rights Act is 100% constitutional.
Your proposal keeps illegal foreigners in the USA. That is bad. They need to be gone. Just enforce laws increase ICE and enforcement until the wall can be built.
it needs to be ENFORCED.
That continues to be the sham, no matter the minimum wage. In fact a higher minimum wage will drive more jobs underground and intice illegals.
They need to offer a bounty for people who supply info to ICE. A really well run progeam would be self-funding and scalable.
This is dumb. The problem is foreign nationals will use government services and breed. We want them gone.
If it could be legitimately stretched to that tortured extent, the Constitution may as well not exist at all.
tax wire remittances to pay for it.
I don’t know what is hokding it up. We pay a TON of taxes that are purely regulatory and never passed Congress.
“Just enforce laws increase ICE”
Motel 6 is owned by a French company.
It didn’t pay $7 million dollars out of pitie ou amour de Mexicanos.
The law apparently prevents any organization from helping the ICE.
The forthcoming Democratic House might not even vote the ICE a budget.
I’ve got a brilliant idea:
1 - penalize ANY employer who hires illegal aliens at the rate of $10K per illegal employee for a first offense, $40K per illegal employee thereafter. This (if actually enforced would solve 80%+ of the issue).
2 - Impose an exit tax of 50% on all funds wired, transferred, or otherwise sent to Mexico or other nation by anyone who cannot produce proper identification/documentation of legal residence.
3- accelerate the deportation process
4- provide for a bounty to whistleblowers who turn in employers for employing illegal aliens (say 10% of the fine imposed). You turn in a chicken plant and the raid produces documentation of 200 illegal alien employees - that is a $2,000,000 fine. 10% would be 200K - not a bad payoff for turning them in.
That contractor who only hires legal workers or Americans who has a hard time competing for jobs because other contractors are hiring illegals at half the pay... they have an incentive to turn them in as well.
5 - BUILD THE WALL!
Alas - nobody has the backbone to do anything remotely like this.
And how could I forget? - no Medicaid or other public funding for anyone’s health care, education, etc without proof of citizenship or legal residence.
How can keeping/importing cheap labor in the USA help US wages and workers? How does that help tax payers?
“a higher minimum wage”
higher?
$1/hour < $7.25/hour
$4.50/hour < $7.25/hour
$6/hour < $7.25/hour
If I’ve read something more stupid on FR in the past 20 years, I can’t remember it now.
“Impose an exit tax of 50% on all funds wired, transferred, or otherwise sent to Mexico or other nation by anyone who cannot produce proper identification/documentation of legal residence.”
Señor Illicito will give his dinero to Señor Permitido to send to Señora Querida.
Enforcing laws is tough.
Weaking minimum wage protection law is easy - two votes and one signature.
“How can keeping/importing cheap labor in the USA help US wages and workers?”
The illegals simply are not going away if they can surely get $7.25/hour or more. And they will keep coming, unless faced with firm offers of $1/hour.
As far as I know, not one illegal has ever been removed from my Florida county of about 500,000 people by federal law enforcement. I’ve never even seen an ICE agent in my Florida county.
The Democrats will gain what is almost sure to be the permanent right to block action against illegals in only seven more weeks.
My proposal if passed into law would give Republicans bargaining leverage.
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