Try sending him here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#United_States
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Posted on 11/08/2018 10:42:14 AM PST by MosesKnows
Young college educated chatter in a political chat room I visit insists that America is a Democracy.
He is adamant in his position and no manner of documentation will persuade him that America is a Republic.
The fact that the founders published their disdain for Democracies meant nothing to him.
The fact that the word “democracy” never once appears in the Declaration of Independence was not persuasive.
The fact that the word “democracy” never once appears in the Constitution didn’t carry any weight.
The fact that none of the Constitutions’ of the fifty states contain the word “democracy” wasn’t acknowledged.
Article 4, Section 4,
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
This discussion has gone on over several months and just the other day it dawned on me, a well duh moment if you will.
It is the differences in our educations. I was educated to the founders’ vision for America. The young chatter was educated to the Progressive vision for America.
You cannot inform liberls, they lredy know absolutely everything.
The “well, duh” moment should have been when you realized you were arguing with an idiot.
I had to explain this to my 12 year old daughter recently. She was being told in school that we are a “representative democracy.” Here’s how I explained the difference:
In a democracy, the democratic will of the people is sovereign. The people can form a majority to pass any law they want.
In our Republic, the Constitution is sovereign. It doesn’t matter if the majority of people want to pass a law that specifically puts a curfew on black people. That law would be unconstitutional and would be struck down. The democratic will of the people cannot override the Constitution. Interestingly, even the method by which the Constitution may be amended is governed by... The Constitution.
We are a Republic in which the Consitution trumps the democratic will of the people.
What’s the old saying, “A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.”
So do teenagers.
“It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.” ~ President Ronald Reagan
"What's worse? One tyrant 3,000 miles away, or 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away?"
The gentleman needs to understand that citizens vote to elect lawmakers and decide yes / no on a few voter referendums.
However, citizens do not vote yes / no on the vast majority of federal and state laws, corrupt federal lawmakers voting yes / no on bills based on stolen state powers beside the point.
The gentleman also needs to understand that the problem with democracy is that it can be one vote away from a civil war, evidenced by election years.
I had a friend make the same mistake.
I had him recite the first few lines of the “Pledge of Allegiance.”
When he got to the line “And to the Republic, for which it stands...” He (gracefully) conceded the point.
In England, Parliament can pass any they want right? No oversight?
*any law they want
Well said.
Article 4, Section 4,
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
Waiting for a state legislature or governor to call the
feds in to combat Antifa or the migrant invasion...
I know, don’t hold my breath. Still, it could happen.
It SHOULD happen!
Like Victor Davis Hansen says..It’s a vile mix of ignorance and arrogance.
You can find it on youtube. Just watch part 1 of “Jennie, Lady Randolph Churchill.” Jennie’s father “Leonard Jerome” even says in the film “I think you sometimes forget you’re the citizen of a republic.”
Not until BREXIT is complete. EU is sovereign, even over the Queen.
They have done street interviews in front of the Harvard Gate where senior and graduate students have done amazingly bad in what they claim to really know! Our education system has been WARPED by the LEFT and it will really take an enormous effort to straighten it. The Educrats ‘frequently’ teach to their biases not to the facts.
Explain to him the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic with this analogy:
A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
A constitutional republic is two wolves and a sheep with a gun negotiating what is in the mutual best interest.
Democracy is mob rule; a republic is the will of the majority with the exception of preserving the basic rights of minorities ON ANY GIVEN ISSUE.
Try sending him here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy#United_States
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