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To: Paladin2
Post WWII? not so much.

Up until Charles de Gaulle was President they were somewhat okay. Once de Gaulle became President that's when they started to resent America. They only tolerated us when we had weak Presidents after Charles de Gaulle became President. 8>)

12 posted on 11/09/2018 9:01:48 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

As a kid in the late 50s, early 60s, I learned to hate the Frogs.

Times have not changed that opinion to date.....


13 posted on 11/09/2018 9:04:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Robert DeLong
This pretty much covers it:

"1958–1962: Founding of the Fifth Republic In the November 1958 elections, de Gaulle and his supporters (initially organised in the Union pour la Nouvelle République-Union Démocratique du Travail, then the Union des Démocrates pour la Vème République, and later still the Union des Démocrates pour la République, UDR) won a comfortable majority. In December, de Gaulle was elected President by the electoral college with 78% of the vote, and inaugurated in January 1959.[179]

De Gaulle oversaw tough economic measures to revitalise the country, including the issuing of a new franc (worth 100 old francs).[180] Internationally, he rebuffed both the United States and the Soviet Union, pushing for an independent France with its own nuclear weapons, and strongly encouraged a "Free Europe", believing that a confederation of all European nations would restore the past glories of the great European empires.[3]:411,428

He set about building Franco-German cooperation as the cornerstone of the European Economic Community (EEC), paying the first state visit to Germany by a French head of state since Napoleon.[181] In January 1963, Germany and France signed a treaty of friendship, the Élysée Treaty.[3]:422 France also reduced its dollar reserves, trading them for gold from the US government, thereby reducing American economic influence abroad.[3]:439

On 23 November 1959, in a speech in Strasbourg, de Gaulle announced his vision for Europe:

Oui, c'est l'Europe, depuis l'Atlantique jusqu'à l'Oural, c'est toute l'Europe, qui décidera du destin du monde.

("Yes, it is Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, it is the whole of Europe, that will decide the destiny of the world.")

His expression, "Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals", has often been cited throughout the history of European integration. It became, for the next ten years, a favourite political rallying cry of de Gaulle's. His vision stood in contrast to the Atlanticism of the United States and Britain, preferring instead a Europe that would act as a third pole between the United States and the Soviet Union. By including in his ideal of Europe all the territory up to the Urals, de Gaulle was implicitly offering détente to the Soviets. As the last chief of government of the Fourth Republic, de Gaulle made sure that the Treaty of Rome creating the European Economic Community was fully implemented, and that the British project of Free Trade Area was rejected, to the extent that he was sometimes considered as a "Father of Europe" [182] "

15 posted on 11/09/2018 9:09:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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