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Dogs are 'no more intelligent' than cats say experts (no matter how much of a clever boy [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 29, 2018 | Victoria Bell

Posted on 11/29/2018 7:39:05 AM PST by C19fan

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To: RoosterRedux
It was cooked meat that transformed wolves into dogs.

More like, those wolves who could amiably be around humans got fed, and thus had a higher survival rate, while those wolves which acted in a hostile manner towards humans had a much lower survival rate.

81 posted on 11/29/2018 4:17:37 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Yep.

It was the smart wolves...the adaptable wolves who made the transition.

The alpha males took a back seat and the adaptable wolves moved ahead.

Hence the needy, approval seeking wolves we see today in our dogs.

We love them but they are the ass-kissers of yesteryear.

82 posted on 11/29/2018 4:28:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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I think measuring an animal's intellectual ability by how well they interact with humans is the wrong standard.

Philosophers talk about the "private language" problem. They say you can't have a language that only one person understands because it isn't a language. Or I think that's what they say.

Cats could always be working on their own problems and coming up with brilliant solutions but if those problems and solutions don't register with experimenters they won't be judged as smart as animals working on problems recognized by human experimenters.

A person in a life or death scenario is significant more intelligent than the same person bored and vegging out on the couch in front of the TV.

House cats usually seem to be bored and vegging out on the couch. The dog who craves human attention may be interacting more with the world, and that attentiveness could be read as intelligence, rightly or wrongly.

A person in a life or death scenario is significant more intelligent than the same person bored and vegging out on the couch in front of the TV.

A solution could be brilliant, but the animal still might end up dead.

In any case experiments like that aren't going to please the animal rights crew.

83 posted on 11/29/2018 4:43:46 PM PST by x
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To: C19fan; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks C19fan. Cats, dogs -- we didn't domesticate them, they domesticated us.

84 posted on 11/30/2018 3:43:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: C19fan

I, for one, am happy to serve my feline overlords!

And that’s not the too talking!

(I think...)

(^..^)/


85 posted on 11/30/2018 3:47:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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...toxo talking...


86 posted on 11/30/2018 3:47:40 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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Dogs look up to you
Cats look down on you


87 posted on 11/30/2018 3:59:20 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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Dogs look up to you
Cats look down on you


88 posted on 11/30/2018 3:59:29 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: C19fan

After being shot with a BB gun three or four times, cats learn to run as soon as they hear the door opening


89 posted on 11/30/2018 4:59:41 AM PST by bert (to them (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: SunkenCiv

“You lie!” says my black lab mix.


90 posted on 11/30/2018 5:59:56 AM PST by madison10
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