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Lake Erie just won the same legal rights as people
VOX ^ | 2/26/2019 | Sigal Samuel

Posted on 03/07/2019 1:42:53 AM PST by cowpoke

...The government, they felt, wasn’t doing enough to protect the lake. And so they wondered: What if the lake could protect itself? The idea they hatched that night ultimately resulted in a special election, which had the citizens of Toledo voting Tuesday on a very unusual question: Should Lake Erie be granted the legal rights normally reserved for a person? The measure passed easily, which means citizens will be able to sue on behalf of the lake whenever its right to flourish is being contravened — that is, whenever it’s in danger of major environmental harm...If the stakes felt almost unbearably high for the activists who pushed for the Lake Erie Bill of Rights, it’s because this was the first rights-based legislation aimed at protecting a whole US ecosystem: the lake, its tributaries, and the many species that live off it. The law isn’t without precedent, though. It’s part of the nascent rights of nature movement, which has notched several victories in the past dozen years.

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: ecosystem; lakeerie; legal; nature; rights
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1 posted on 03/07/2019 1:42:53 AM PST by cowpoke
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Seems like another nonsense that will have to go to higher courts


2 posted on 03/07/2019 1:55:57 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: cowpoke

Seriously? The people of toledo are dumb, really really dumb. Just plain stupid. really really stupid. Y’all is dumb.. dumb dumb dumb. Smh.


3 posted on 03/07/2019 2:08:44 AM PST by Ikeon ( You may be right, I may be crazy.)
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To: cowpoke

“What if the lake could protect itself?”

Well, from all the stories of boat accidents, I’m sure that it has more than enough fire power!


4 posted on 03/07/2019 2:13:10 AM PST by 21twelve (!)
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To: cowpoke

If Lake Erie has the same legal rights as a person, then it’s only a matter of time before someone with a smart lawyer sues the lake over a drowning or boating accident ... and takes possession of all its revenue potential when they win the lawsuit.


5 posted on 03/07/2019 2:15:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Ikeon
Toledo ?

Minneapolis, all of Minnesota, the left coast, about seven major cities, parts of Florida ..... a good bit of Michigan, Washington DC ......

6 posted on 03/07/2019 2:16:46 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true. I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: cowpoke

More proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.


7 posted on 03/07/2019 2:18:05 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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Don’t you love liberals? Give a lake “person” status, but deny it to unborn babies. Liberalism really is a mental disorder.”


8 posted on 03/07/2019 2:30:45 AM PST by mikefive (RLTW/DOL)
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Yes, but unlike babies, does it have a “right to life” if the lake cannot breathe, move, feel, or think? It can get a lawyer, but not a gun? What pronoun is a lake?


9 posted on 03/07/2019 2:58:21 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: melsec

Well if it’s a victim of sexual discrimination at the workplace, it should be afforded all avenues given to humans :)


10 posted on 03/07/2019 3:11:40 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: cowpoke

Are people really this stupid or gullible? Will they feel the same way when jobs are lost, taxes go up, and they lose access or use of the lake?


11 posted on 03/07/2019 3:19:28 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: cowpoke

These idiots vote in other elections too


12 posted on 03/07/2019 3:30:52 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: cowpoke

What could go wrong here?


13 posted on 03/07/2019 3:37:31 AM PST by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: cowpoke
Amazing. A fetus is not a person, but a lake is.
14 posted on 03/07/2019 3:48:17 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: cowpoke

simple, just declare it “unborn” and do whatever you want to the lake.


15 posted on 03/07/2019 3:48:31 AM PST by Ikeon ( You may be right, I may be crazy.)
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To: cowpoke

This is more proof that the left is completely agenda-driven, and couldn’t care less about the means.

They are quick to confer personhood to a lake; all the while fighting against the long-standing legal status of Corporations. The left are champions for the “Corporations are not people”, while Unions are “people”, in their march against Citizens United.


16 posted on 03/07/2019 3:53:30 AM PST by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: cowpoke

Now they’ll demand taxpayer funded abortions & gender reassignment surgery for the lake?


17 posted on 03/07/2019 3:55:19 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: cowpoke

Voting Democrat no doubt.


18 posted on 03/07/2019 3:56:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: mikefive

>>Don’t you love liberals? Give a lake “person” status, but deny it to born babies.

They are killing them after delivery these days.


19 posted on 03/07/2019 3:57:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: cowpoke
I live on a river that flows into Lake Erie. Does this mean that the citizens of Toledo can sue me if I pee in the river?

This brings up the Michigan-Toledo War of 1835. Michigan fought Ohio over the possession of Toledo. Michigan won! Ohio was stuck with Toledo.

(for all you history buffs, Ohio won. However, in compensation, Michigan was given the Upper Peninsula. We gained "Da UPpers".)

20 posted on 03/07/2019 4:01:21 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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