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Did Gun Control Prevent Jews From Stopping The Holocaust?
Huffington Post ^ | Huffington Post

Posted on 03/21/2019 10:40:53 AM PDT by atlana

(RNS) As gun control moved toward the top of the American agenda after the Dec. 14 massacre at a Connecticut elementary school, gun rights activists began to invoke a curious analogy: the Holocaust.

On television, radio and in letters to the editor, the argument went that Hitler’s gun control laws left European Jews defenseless, and that the Holocaust would not have happened — or at least would not have been as catastrophic in scale — had Jews had guns.

But here’s the question: Is it true?

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


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Posting this in light of the NZ kneejerk gun ban following the tragedy there.

Especially love this part...

"In no way could armed people have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi state,"

...er, armed people did stop the "totalitarian power of the Nazi state", those armed people were the soldiers of the Allied forces.

This is a gem too...

"The record also shows that the Nazis accelerated the liquidation of remaining Jewish ghettos after the uprising."

...so basically, lay down your life so that others will be killed more slowly. The point that everyone ends up dead regardless appears to be lost.

Moving on...

"When gun rights advocates aren’t using the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to make a case against gun control, they often invoke Sobibor, an extermination camp in Nazi-occupied Poland that was shut down by the Germans after a Jewish revolt — involving first an ax and then explosives and guns.

But the rebellion was but one reason why the Germans destroyed the camp and hid all evidence of mass murders there, wrote Moynihan. They also wanted Sobibor to disappear because the Allies were fast approaching."

...so again lay down your lives because not doing so will mean evidence gets hidden.

I was unable to find out who at Huffington Post wrote this diatribe.

1 posted on 03/21/2019 10:40:53 AM PDT by atlana
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To: atlana

You have to have a certain kind of liberal insanity to believe that it’s better to unarmed than armed, when confronted by people who want to kill you.


2 posted on 03/21/2019 10:46:26 AM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: atlana

And what about slaves in America? I have seen the eight-inch spikes on top of metal fences . . . they feared a slave uprising. It would have been over sooner if they had guns in their hands.


3 posted on 03/21/2019 10:46:58 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: atlana

Did my beforehand guess as to their conclusion before reading.

Bingo.

My current HuffPo guess ahead score: 100%.

Ah, the pleasures of observing unlimited stupidity.

Along with the sadness of observing folks who actually believe them.


4 posted on 03/21/2019 10:47:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: atlana

Yes! Gun control, disarm the population. Socialized medicine, so you know who is who and where. Besides that the Jews were socialist and during his rise the Jews, my people, were told to ignore his rethoric as it’s just to get him elected.

Notice anything?


5 posted on 03/21/2019 10:47:13 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: atlana

Another argument from the gun grabbers is that Germany already had gun control before the Nazis took over. Well that made it even easier for Shitler to impose stricter gun control regs on the Jews.


6 posted on 03/21/2019 10:50:14 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: atlana

“...had Jews had guns.”

Lying sh!t. No one had them...legally.


7 posted on 03/21/2019 10:51:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: atlana

Gun Control talking points from the Puff Ho?

Not even gonna read the excerpt. Nope. No thanks.


8 posted on 03/21/2019 10:53:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: atlana

It sure would’ve made it more difficult had they been well armed. After all, it’s tough to round people up who are shooting at you.


9 posted on 03/21/2019 10:54:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: atlana

The huff post? what do you expect from a rotten leftist rag? They don’t want you or anyone to defend themselves from fascist oppression.


10 posted on 03/21/2019 10:54:14 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: atlana

Live for a short time as a free man, armed to the teeth, while standing on your feet or live for a slightly longer time, as an unarmed slave and kneeling while waiting to be led to the slaughtering pens.

Choose, folks.

JoMa


11 posted on 03/21/2019 10:54:37 AM PDT by joma89
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To: atlana
How Do You Kill 11 Million People - by Andy Andrews
12 posted on 03/21/2019 10:54:58 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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Let's ask the question HuffPo pretends to address:

If the Jews had been as broadly dispersed and as well armed as average Americans are today, would the Holocaust have been prevented?

uh...YES!

13 posted on 03/21/2019 10:55:16 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: atlana

Stupid question considering “arms” is what is currently preventing a Jewish holocaust right in front of you every single day in the present.


14 posted on 03/21/2019 10:57:46 AM PDT by The Toll
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With or without guns the Jews for the most part did not resist the Germans. Nor did the French.

I've always wondered why the French did not fight back more against the Germans. The Occupation Army was vastly out numbered by the French citizenry. Would there have been casualties? Yep.

But you make France too expensive for the Germans to hold.

15 posted on 03/21/2019 10:59:13 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Unless I'm mistaken a noticeable...perhaps even a *very* noticeable...percentage of Texas households own firearms today. Assuming I'm correct it stands to reason that if a similar percentage of Jewish households during the 1930s/1940s owned firearms things would have been different.

And very probably *very* different.

Although it's hard to be certain exacatly how they'd be different.It could have simply meant that a squad of Nazi soldiers would have shown up at such households and a gunfight would have ensued...a gunfight that the Jewish residents of the household would have lost.

16 posted on 03/21/2019 10:59:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: atlana

There is no German history lecturer explaining this to HuffPuff. If you go back to 1913, there was a mass shooting in Bremen (at a school). After that one event, the Kaiser and the Reichstag had a big law revision, which drove gun reform. The Nazis just came up later to add on top of what was done there in 1913, and later what the Reichstag accomplished in the early 1920s.


17 posted on 03/21/2019 11:00:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: atlana
America isn’t Nazi Germany,” Moynihan concludes, “and it cheapens the experience of Holocaust victims to suggest otherwise.”

People say it couldn't happen here....but I'm sure there are some on the Left who would gladly send a lot of us to the camps.

18 posted on 03/21/2019 11:02:11 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Campion

The answer is “yes”. The experience in the Polish Warsaw Ghetto where the Jews, originally with only about half a dozen guns, managed to stall the Nazi advance for significant amount of time.


19 posted on 03/21/2019 11:03:46 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: atlana; EinNYC; Yaelle; SkyDancer; Sarah Barracuda; EveningStar
"In no way could armed people have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi state,"

LOLOL!

That is literally what happened here:

Huffpoo posted this B.S. during Purim too.

They can sod off.

20 posted on 03/21/2019 11:05:15 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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