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Vanity: My garden is dying from all this rain; weeds are of course thriving. What's going on?
My Poor Bedraggled, Dying Garden ^ | Jun 16, 2019 | (self)

Posted on 06/16/2019 11:44:52 AM PDT by dayglored

I live in rural Upstate NY, in a field in the woods on a hill in the Finger Lakes. Mrs. Dayglored and I have a large garden (flowers and ornamentals, not produce) that in most years is gorgeous this time of year with blossoms all over. (Lots of weeds to remove too, of course.)

This year, all the #&!@* RAIN that started early and continues through today has wreaked havoc on it!

Are other FReepers having similar experiences? Northeast? Midwest? South? I can't make sense of it.

Especially weird is the HOUSEPLANTS dying after moving outdoors -- what's up with that??? We're nowhere near big city pollution, the temperature hasn't been all that bad. I figure it MUST be something to do with all the RAIN.

Thanks in advance for insight, consolation, whatever...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Gardening; Outdoors; Weather
KEYWORDS: garden; gardening; houseplants; plants; rain; wastedmytime; weather
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1 posted on 06/16/2019 11:44:52 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin

PINGING the Garden Thread Folks.... Thanks in advance if you can ping the List.


2 posted on 06/16/2019 11:45:55 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin

And thanks for the wonderful Weekly Garden Thread yesterday — heartening to see somebody is doing well! :-)


3 posted on 06/16/2019 11:47:05 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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Weather patterns. In 2002 we had a drought, and then we had a fairly good Summers with pretty normal rainfall and last summer rained a lot and this summer it rained and we now have a dry spell and now it’s heating back up.

I live in Tidewater Virginia. So it’s actually heating back up right now it cooled off for a couple of weeks and I looked at the windy app and looked at the air currents and it’s just stuff coming up from the Gulf or predominant Highs coming down from the north and it is just weather patterns.


4 posted on 06/16/2019 11:48:23 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: dayglored

You don’t have good drainage. Must be very clay-heavy soil. You need to lighten it up by tilling in humus like peat moss and such, make it a nice loamy soil. It’s been raining cats and dogs down here in Queens, but I never have water puddling in my garden because I amended the soil before planting anything. Now it’s light and loamy, and I have gorgeous plants and flowers to prove it.


5 posted on 06/16/2019 11:49:29 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: dayglored

Most plants don’t like their roots to stay saturated. Mix in some more sand in your soil so it will drain better.


6 posted on 06/16/2019 11:51:27 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: EinNYC

Yep I agree. It’s poor drainage. Have the soil tested. If it’s raised bass, drill holes in the side to let water drain out


7 posted on 06/16/2019 11:52:03 AM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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To: dayglored
It reminds me of the beginning of the "little ice age", which started with an ugly cold wet spring, and famine resulting from the crop failure.

8 posted on 06/16/2019 11:53:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: dayglored
i don't think it's gone four days without rain since last sept
9 posted on 06/16/2019 11:55:59 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: dayglored

Same in Cincinnati...and the deer eating weeds, flowers, and scrapping new weeds seeds everywhere just makes it worse.

I had a fallow garden this year except strawberries...funny thing is I left them unprotected from deer or any mammals...no one ate them but me! Crazy.


10 posted on 06/16/2019 11:56:42 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: dayglored

In Western MA, the front lawn has been growing like a weed. Well, the weeds are growing. The grass seed was washed away.

But the reservoirs are full, so that’s good.


11 posted on 06/16/2019 11:57:07 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: dayglored
Many different issues could be taking place.

1. Root rot. from to much water as you say. Kratky method of planting so much easier for potted plants. Many variations of this.

2. The weeds are the wide or narrow leaf? and visa versa of your plants? if they're the opposite there could be run off of poisons.
3. Bugs attack specific types of plants.

A picture of a wilting leaves speaks a thousand words.

12 posted on 06/16/2019 11:57:55 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: EinNYC
Well, it's true there's heavy clay about 18" down, but this field was a potato farm decades ago, and the topsoil has been tilled and productive in years past. It usually drains acceptably. We add MiracleGro type soil to the existing topsoil wherever we plant, and of course mulch. But it seems like the entire top layer, a foot or so down, is saturated.

But mainly though it's the houseplants that freaked me out by dying. They're not in the field soil -- they're just in their regular pots they've always been in.

13 posted on 06/16/2019 11:58:37 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

natural selection. the heartier Weeds will conquer your garden!!!!!


14 posted on 06/16/2019 11:58:38 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: dayglored

I live in the Finger Lakes too. While it is abnormal to a degree, it is not unusual and not the first time I have seen this sort of weather.

We get hot dry summers like two years ago when my lawn was simply burnt to a crisp and did, in fact, die because I cut it too short one weekend and it didn’t rain again until labor day.

I recall fishing on Lime Lake in early August of 1976 and seeing a few snow flurries with temps in the mid 40’s.

These are component parts of the averages. Some high, some low, and it all evens out over time.

Toss in the towel on your garden for this year and better luck next year.


15 posted on 06/16/2019 11:58:50 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: dayglored
I hate it for you. Charlotte, NC here. Ms moovova has invested a lot of time in her natural areas (which I call labor-intensive areas), and it's paid off for her. All flowers also. Unfortunately, the deer, bugs and the increasing heat are starting to take a toll. Rain isn't a problem as the beds are will drained. We actually use irrigation if there isn't enough rain. And we're using more irrigation ($$😖). The grass is suffering too. It'll get worse before the end of summer. I hope you find a solution!
16 posted on 06/16/2019 11:58:53 AM PDT by moovova
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To: dayglored

Sorry to hear about your poor plants.

I wish I could offer some positive advice.

About your house plants dying, I think all that rain is a shock to them. If you still have any left alive, I would suggest taking them back inside until after the strong rains stop.

But I hope your other plants will make it through and recover, once the rain stops.


17 posted on 06/16/2019 11:59:01 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: dayglored

You obviously need the government to step in with a solution.

First step is grants to local universities to study the problem. We also need diversity consultants to verify that the university study is poperly representatives of the population and of those who are concerned. We also need a study on how many of the flowers you are growing are native and how many are invaders from Europe.

It is OK to genetically alter humans. But we need to verify that none of your flowers were genetically altered.

We also need a joint task force of the Agriculture Department, the EPA and the Bureau of Native American Affairs to study how we can work together for environmental sustainability.

And all that before we get to climate change. Obviously the failure of Republicans to spend more money, and to be more concerned, about climate change is at the root of the answer to your question.


18 posted on 06/16/2019 12:00:42 PM PDT by spintreebob (D)
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To: Chode
> i don't think it's gone four days without rain since last sept

That^^^^

You're roughly in the Ithaca area, do I remember right? Are we cursed or something?

I'm referring to the weather here, not to the local City of Evil :-)

19 posted on 06/16/2019 12:02:53 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: Chode
i don't think it's gone four days without rain since last sept

Wow, a perfect setup for water rationing. Or so say our liberal politicians out here in California. Got a drought? Water rationing! Got flooding? More water rationing!

20 posted on 06/16/2019 12:03:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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