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1 posted on 06/17/2019 4:03:11 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Bonemaker

There’s a fine upstanding family.


2 posted on 06/17/2019 4:06:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bonemaker

I believe this is the family whose very young child took a doll from the store without paying. That, to me, should send warning signs as to what they were dealing with. I’m not saying pull guns on a small child but this story wreaks.

Yes, she is our new mayor and all I have heard is that she is a major tax and spend democrat. What’s new, right? And all I have heard from her and the police chief is apologies for how the police force has dealt with things over the past week.


3 posted on 06/17/2019 4:07:40 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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Just words. Actually do something Mayor. PHX PD is notorious for this type of stuff.


4 posted on 06/17/2019 4:08:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Good gad, she’s channeling Lori Lightfoot.


6 posted on 06/17/2019 4:25:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Bonemaker

They are using this example to help justify rioting over that idiot car jacker brandon webber


8 posted on 06/17/2019 4:34:03 AM PDT by RummyChick
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It wasn’t just the child shoplifting but the police behavior was atrocious and illegal. It’s on video. It’s a lose-lose situation.


9 posted on 06/17/2019 4:45:44 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Bonemaker

If they were not crooks and shoplifters there would have been no guns drawn.
This is really very simple and requires little to no thought. Even libs should be able to think through this.


13 posted on 06/17/2019 6:02:12 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: Bonemaker

Dumb a$$es


14 posted on 06/17/2019 6:03:10 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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Wanna know why police are so agressive when approaching a vehicle no matter who is in it?

Sgt. Kelvin Ansari was killed when shots broke out after he and other officers were approaching a vehicle suspected as part of a robbery investigation.

Officer Jordan Sheldon, a K-9 officer, was shot during a routine traffic stop and died at a nearby hospital. The suspect fled but police traced him to his apartment, where they found him dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Deputy Justin DeRosier was responding to a disabled vehicle when he was shot. He was flown to a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, where he died.

Deputy Peter Herrera was shot after pulling over a vehicle during a traffic stop. He died two days later.

Deputy Ryan Thompson was responding to a complaint about a motorist and attempted to stop the vehicle. But the driver wouldn’t stop and officers took off after him. After he eventually pulled over, the motorist got out of the car and opened fire on the officers. Both Thompson and the driver were killed in the ensuing shootout.

Sgt. Wytasha Carter was shot and killed outside a bar and another officer was critically wounded as they responded to a report about car break-ins and caught them in a vehicle.

Officer Natalie Corona was shot and killed after responding to a three-vehicle crash, from a stolen car.

These are not all I could have posted. Every one one of these is car related, and the police officer was killed. And these are not ancient history, they have happened this year and we aren’t even half way through the year. In the film, the officer held the gun to the car, when the family exited, the gun was lowered.

How many dead officers are considered collateral damage? Or does enlisting in the police department lower your status as a human?

rwood


16 posted on 06/17/2019 6:27:17 AM PDT by Redwood71
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According to the police:
“In a statement, Phoenix Police said the incident began when an officer was advised by store employees of shoplifting, and he was directed to people getting into a car. As the officer walked toward the vehicle, the car quickly backed up and started to leave the parking lot, police said.

The car stopped at another road, one of the women got out and the car then drove away. That woman was detained by the officer, who learned she had three misdemeanor warrants for her arrest, police said. The woman was later booked for the warrants, according to police.

The vehicle was later found in an apartment complex parking lot, and the man and woman inside were taken into custody and detained, police said. The woman told police that her aunt and child had gone into the store, and when the child came out with a doll, she believed they had stolen it because they didn’t have any money, according to police.

The woman heard the officer in the parking lot tell the driver to stop several times, but he didn’t, police said.

The man said he knew they had shoplifted from the store and that he threw a stolen pair of underwear out the window, according to police.”


23 posted on 06/17/2019 8:33:33 AM PDT by Oatka
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I saw the video the TeeVee people **wanted** me to see.

Now, can I see the Unedited video???


24 posted on 06/17/2019 8:41:34 AM PDT by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: Bonemaker

Councilman Sal DiCiccio
From his FaceBook page

Councilman Sal DiCiccio Statement on Police “Shoplifting” Incident.

Please Share

(UPDATED: I have officially requested the radio transmissions from the “event”, since nobody else has. That will give you the actual situation as it was happening!!!!)

While the media has created a narrative that this was a “child shoplifting” stop, video from the store appears to show both adults stealing. Further, the viral video being used to paint a negative picture of the Phoenix Police Department doesn’t tell the whole story – it’s like reading the last page of a book and assuming you know everything that happened in the previous chapters.

Here’s what happened, and I challenge anyone – media, politicians, and the public – to dispute this timeline of events:

1. A call came in regarding a theft from a store, officers responded.
2. Upon arrival, the responding officer was alerted to another theft from the same store.
3. During this second theft, store video confirms additional items were taken by multiple adult suspects, including both the adults present during the stop.
4. Suspects were identified and police approached the individuals while in their vehicle at the store parking lot.
5. Officers gave multiple commands to the driver of the suspect’s vehicle to exit the vehicle.
6. Despite lawful orders, the vehicle took off and stopped a short distance away.
7. At this time, a single female passenger exited the vehicle and surrendered to police.
8. Driver proceeded to continue to ignore lawful police orders and took off once again, coming to a stop approximately one mile away.
9. The female passenger who originally exited the vehicle confirmed that she heard the orders, and asked the driver to stop, then asked to be let out of the vehicle.
10. Vehicle was identified and followed by a second police unit, which was waiting for assistance from additional units before activating their emergency lights and initiating the stop.
11. Vehicle turned into an apartment complex and stopped, causing the tailing police unit to initiate contact, and the first officer called the suspects out of the vehicle while the second officer – per policy – remained in a defensive location with his service weapon in the ready position, but not aimed.
12. Once all the passengers had exited the vehicle and officers could see that they were not armed, the second officer returned his service weapon to his holster – again, per policy.
13. The female passenger admitted to police upon being detained that she could hear the officer in the parking lot ordering them to exit the vehicle, and that the driver ignored those orders and fled.
14. Both the driver and female passenger admitted to having shoplifted items from the store.
15. Driver and passenger additionally admitted to tossing stolen items out of the car as they drove away.

While the video that shows the conclusion of the incident looks bad, the only element of this arrest which appears to be out of policy is the use of foul language during the incident, which is unfortunate, but hardly unusual in a charged situation. Unfortunately, the narrative being painted is that this was a stop involving a four-year old child rather than an apparent crime committed by adults who put their children in harms-way by bringing them to a criminal activity.

The actions of the officers appear to be entirely in line with policy. There was no use of excessive force. The stop was lawful. Police were responding to a crime, and engaged in a heightened response due to the actions of the driver in failing to comply with lawful demands and driving away from the original scene.

This constant barrage of attacking our officers in the end puts all our law-abiding citizens at risk, as well as the officers charged with protecting us. Some have claimed that because this was “only” a shoplifting incident, that police should have approached the traffic stop less aggressively. That narrative completely ignores the fact that the driver was ordered to stop by police, chose to ignore those orders, and fled the scene. Officers who conducted the stop weren’t merely responding to a shoplifting case: they were responding to a shoplifting case where the suspect had also already demonstrated that they were willing to ignore the lawful orders of officers on the scene. Under that circumstance, it would be the height of irresponsibility – and incredibly dangerous – for officers to respond without taking extra defensive measures. They could not treat this incident as a minor traffic stop without putting both their lives and potentially the lives of other members of the public at risk.

I hesitated to put out any statement on this issue until more information became available because – without question – someone viewing the video without any additional facts would and should be upset by what they saw. However, in light of the full facts of the case, I challenge anyone to contradict the timeline I have put out, and challenge anyone to show me exactly where the police have acted out of policy, with the exception of the use of foul language. Barring that, I will not be making any further statements on this issue publicly, as it appears likely the suspects will soon be filing a substantial claim against the City of Phoenix.

https://youtu.be/khQofOZiYgg
https://youtu.be/cRP5wN3JvVE


30 posted on 06/17/2019 10:33:48 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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