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Why 'Batman,' Not 'Star Wars,' Was The Box Office Blockbuster That Ruined Hollywood
Forbes ^ | June 23, 2019 | Scott Mendelson

Posted on 06/23/2019 6:26:45 PM PDT by EdnaMode

Today is June 23, 2019, making it the 30th anniversary of Tim Burton’s Batman.

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Looking back at its success, I maintain that Batman, not Star Wars (and certainly not Jaws), is the movie most responsible for the current Hollywood blockbuster.

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First, somewhat obviously, it showed Hollywood that they could make a film, a non-sequel film no-less, that could be a presumed guaranteed moneymaker by virtue of its source material. Sure, it wasn’t the first Hollywood blockbuster whose popularity partially stemmed from a book or a play. Think Gone with the Wind, Ben-Hur, The Godfather or Jaws. But Batman’s success signaled to the industry that they could raid their IP for potential movie material. As such, we had comic book movies (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles), video game movies (Super Mario Bros.), films based on popular TV shows (The Fugitive), movies stemming directly from TV shows (Wayne’s World, X-Files: Fight the Future), and films based on theme park rides (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl).

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The other trend that Batman began (sorry) was the notion of a kid-targeted property being fashioned into a movie aimed at older moviegoers. Yes, I saw Batman on opening weekend as a nine-year-old, and I wasn’t scarred for life. Nor was I among the kids traumatized by Batman Returns, but I digress. Nonetheless, At the time, the PG-13 rating was four-years-old and the idea a comic book superhero movie being both PG-13 and dark, violent and sexual enough to damn-well deserve that rating was a huge deal. Batman and (especially) Batman Returns were action fantasies pitched at adult moviegoers and filtered through adult sensibilities. It was considered “adult” enough that Disney successfully opened Honey I Shrunk the Kids ($14 million debut/$140 million cume) the same day.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: batman; blockbusters; hollywood; movies; starwars
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Globalism is what ruined the blockbuster.
1 posted on 06/23/2019 6:26:45 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

Rocky was the movie that ruined Hollywood with those beatings that 10-15 men could not have taken let alone a single man. The subhuman beatings that have become commonplace in Hollywood and on TV have no sense of reality at all. Rocky destroyed it and made it all fake.


2 posted on 06/23/2019 6:29:08 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: EdnaMode

They made movies about superheros before Batman. Superman for instance. Duh.

Also there were movies made from TV shows before The Fugitive.
Crap, there was a BATMAN movie in the 60’s made in the same style as the TV series. Even Star Trek! There were even 2 Dark Shadows Movies made in the 70’s.

Hollywood lost it way when every movie is crammed full of those over the top CGI type special effects. And mixing the sound effects and music way too loud versus the dialog.


3 posted on 06/23/2019 6:33:49 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: John Milner

PS: I never saw the Batman movie he’s ragging on. FWIW.


4 posted on 06/23/2019 6:35:03 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: EdnaMode

It was Speilberg, Lucas, Stan Lee and computers that ruined Hollywood. The violence is so mind numbingly worthless that a 9/11 occurring today would have little impact on a public that watches disasters like these in every stinking movie.


5 posted on 06/23/2019 6:35:32 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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To: Jumper

Yo Adrian!


6 posted on 06/23/2019 6:35:55 PM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as intwerchangeable as spark plugs.)
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Making movies for international audiences (china) is what ruined hollywood


7 posted on 06/23/2019 6:39:18 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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To: EdnaMode

“Batman” certainly impacted discourse among us teenagers when I was in high school. After the movie and TV show came out, we found ourselves using “holy___, Batman!” exclamations inspired by the character Robin.

For example, a’60’s teenager might have responded to Joe Biden’s reversal of his stand on the Hyde Amendment by exclaiming, “holy flip-flop, Batman!”


8 posted on 06/23/2019 6:41:22 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: EdnaMode

>>First, somewhat obviously, it showed Hollywood that they could make a film, a non-sequel film no-less, that could be a presumed guaranteed moneymaker by virtue of its source material.

There were plenty of such turkeys in the 70s 80s and 90s.

And Keaton was miscast and Prince was an odd choice for the score. At least Queen was part of a campy Flash Gordon film.


9 posted on 06/23/2019 6:41:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: EdnaMode
Riiiight….

What about Superman and Superman II with Christopher Reeve, featuring Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman, Glenn Ford, Jackie Cooper and Ned Beatty, Margot Kidder, Valerie Perrine and Terrence Stamp?

Or Superman III with Richard Pryor, Annette O'Toole and Robert Vaughn?

Or Superman IV again with Gene Hackman and Jackie Cooper?

-PJ

10 posted on 06/23/2019 6:45:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: EdnaMode
Batman kind of ruined it for everybody...


11 posted on 06/23/2019 6:50:27 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: EdnaMode

Nope, political correctness is what ruined Hollywood.


12 posted on 06/23/2019 7:06:25 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Magnum44

Adam We still made it work somehow.


13 posted on 06/23/2019 7:07:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as intwerchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: EdnaMode
How so?

I thought that Hollywood is going through the same thing contemporary music is experiencing. That is, a shift from rock that had big timeless successes but deep losses, to a less-volatile pop mix that produces more steady and predictable hits.

Hollywood's hit machine has crashed because the market woke up, and doesn't want rehashed plots that cost you $50 a trip to the theater.

The pop successes haven't crashed yet but I predict in 5 years, we'll start hearing better, harder rock on more people's iPhones.

14 posted on 06/23/2019 7:11:12 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Robert DeLong

That is true. It’s almost unwatchable.


15 posted on 06/23/2019 7:11:31 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

None of these ruined Hollywood!

The LEFT ruined Hollywood.


16 posted on 06/23/2019 7:27:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: EdnaMode

It is all the SJW and LGBTAEGFHJIKM crap they jam into every movie


17 posted on 06/23/2019 7:33:15 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thats a fact


18 posted on 06/23/2019 7:46:49 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Magnum44
Sometimes a movie franchise jumps the shark. Other times the shark jumps it.


19 posted on 06/23/2019 7:52:06 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
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To: EdnaMode

Wow it’s been 30 years since the giant riot that broke out at Showcase Dedham when tickets were over sold.
SWAT had to be sent in. What a CRAZY night that was...


20 posted on 06/23/2019 7:53:55 PM PDT by mowowie
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