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A new twist on medical tourism: American surgeons, patients meet in Mexico
Becker's Hospital Review ^ | August 13, 2019 | Ayla Ellison

Posted on 08/13/2019 4:47:48 PM PDT by buckalfa

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To: buckalfa

How government screws up everything it touches.


21 posted on 08/13/2019 5:54:03 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BobL

But how is the post-surgery care?


22 posted on 08/13/2019 5:55:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where does it say in the Constitution anyone is entitled to the property another has labored for?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I have a cunning plan!


23 posted on 08/13/2019 5:57:27 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: momincombatboots

From my experiences the fees in Germany dont’ have that ridiculous BC/BS markup that never needs to be paid unless the patient is a cash patient. The fees in Germany are directly proportional to the level of care.


24 posted on 08/13/2019 5:59:04 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: buckalfa

Another reason could be because of insurance companies not approving a needed preventative procedure until you are almost dead. Folks have died because of this control over life or death the government handed to insurance companies.


25 posted on 08/13/2019 5:59:44 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: BobL

Gotta worry bout the aftercare...i.e infections...icu services...cardiac monitoring...inhalation treatments...pharmaceuticals...hospital cleanliness...but it might be cheaper for insurance company to build hospital and run it to american standards without unions...bennies...lawsuits...could be a better deal..


26 posted on 08/13/2019 6:25:17 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: BobL

It’s happened before.


27 posted on 08/13/2019 6:27:51 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: grumpygresh

Artificially restricting the number of doctors, as we do now, is hardly representative of a “free market”. It’s just the opposite - a restrictive guild system. Any so-called “free market reform” of health care that doesn’t lift the medical professions limits on accessibility to medical school for qualified applicants, is a fraud


28 posted on 08/13/2019 6:31:00 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: grumpygresh

One additional reason why hospital costs in the US are so high, is they are forced to give service to people who don’t pay. That means that they have to charge the people who DO pay extra.


29 posted on 08/13/2019 6:33:02 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PGR88

But we have the best medical care system in the world!

Horsefeathers.


30 posted on 08/13/2019 7:16:14 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: rintintin

I don’t have a problem lifting the number of people entering medical school. However, because med school is subsidized, we shouldn’t expect the taxpayers to pick up the additional amount required to expand the number of slots.

That being said, increasing the number of physicians would not likely reduce total healthcare expenditures because although physicians fees do not comprise a large percentage of healthcare costs they do generate healthcare spending via tests, hospital use, medications ordered etc. so increasing their numbers would increase total healthcare spending.

But, if people were paying for most or all of their healthcare, the total expenditures wouldn’t matter. It does matter now because most healthcare has essentially been socialized with taxpayers picking up the bill. Remember, when there were medieval guilds, there were no subsidies for the goldsmiths, cabinet makers, and tailors. They were set up as monopolies and required a licensing fee issued by the king or ruler.

Are you or a friend trying to get into med school?


31 posted on 08/13/2019 8:15:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh

Are you or a friend trying to get into med school?

No. I’ve just been struck by the many “free market” health care analysts who seem fine with our guild-like system of limiting medical schools, clearly designed protect members of the profession from “too much” competition


32 posted on 08/13/2019 9:21:00 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: buckalfa

No suing though. While I hate frivolous medical malpractice suits, the fact that the doc CAN be sued for malpractice does keep them at the height of patient concern.

Some Mexican doctors have killed patients out of sheer negligence and are treating and slicing the very next day and then on for years.


33 posted on 08/13/2019 9:30:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Brilliant

I suspect a US court would take jurisdiction of a dispute between an American doctor and an American patient.


How? Who has jurisdiction over Tijuana?


34 posted on 08/13/2019 9:31:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: combat_boots

A trusted doc of this family contends that you STILL get what you pay for in medicine - anywhere in the world.


Not just in medicine, and yes.


35 posted on 08/13/2019 9:31:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PGR88
Too many people are totally dependent on it, and the bureaucratic and financial vested interests are absolutely huge.

You are absolutely correct! I've worked as an insurance consultant for several large hospitals, attempting to lower their costs. The attorneys pile on and bleed them. The insurance brokers, insurance trusts and actuaries take shark bites. The only thing they can buy cheap is property insurance. Even the hospital executives are often disinclined to change methods or hire different services because of the "good ol' boy network" or the excuse, "we've always done it this way".

36 posted on 08/13/2019 9:55:18 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: NativeSon

And I have a whole bunch of relatives fond of using wordplay so I have a punning clan!

CC


37 posted on 08/14/2019 2:35:41 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Brilliant

“It’s happened before.”

Yep, even back in the 1990s I had figured out that Hillary-care was going to send people out of the country, in large numbers, for surgery. Thankfully it didn’t happen then, but now it is happening.


38 posted on 08/14/2019 5:06:11 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Getready

“Gotta worry bout the aftercare...i.e infections...icu services...cardiac monitoring...inhalation treatments...pharmaceuticals...hospital cleanliness”

All true, but if the doctors are top rate Americans, they won’t put up with crappy conditions.


39 posted on 08/14/2019 5:08:39 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“But how is the post-surgery care?”

I know that at least some of the doctors have arrangements for follow-up care in the US - obviously much cheaper than the actually surgery.


40 posted on 08/14/2019 5:12:41 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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