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Dear Abby: Veteran rubbed the wrong way by the expression: ‘Thank you for your service’
al.com ^ | Sept. 22, 2019 | Abigail Van Buren

Posted on 09/22/2019 8:07:08 AM PDT by bgill

DEAR ABBY: I am a veteran, and something gnaws at me every time I hear it. It’s the expression, “Thank you for your service.” Having lived through the ’60s and ’70s, I remember all too well seeing many soldiers bad-mouthed and worse during those times. Since 9/11 many of the same people who were critical of us then are now thanking us. It rings hollow to many of the vets I have talked to. We did our job, some to the ultimate level. We never asked for thanks, and we still don’t. We respect the rights given to those who wish to abuse them because we believe in them. Some of us even died so all could enjoy these rights. If a person truly wants to thank a vet, DO something for him or her instead of just offering lip service. Cut their grass, offer to help carry in their groceries, etc. While words are appreciated at times, hearing them too often becomes hollow. Showing appreciation is always welcome. -- A VETERAN IN THE MIDWEST

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: abbyisafake; dearabby; military
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To: All

I just want to be left alone.


81 posted on 09/22/2019 11:39:01 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: bgill

I carry $5 gift cards for a popular coffee chain (yeah - Starbucks!) to hand out to military personnel. They are always very appreciative. Not very expensive, but shows appreciation for what they do to keep our country safe.


82 posted on 09/22/2019 11:41:50 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives numerous, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: bgill
I agree. So many of these people "thanking for your service" or to those who've lost loved ones "thank you for your sacrifice", are exhibiting elitism and arrogance. The sacrifice and service aren't for people who don't share values of patriotism, love of nation, and a desire to save what's good about the US and the country that the Constitution allowed.

Commitment to an ideal bigger than oneself should not be reduced to a cliché!

83 posted on 09/22/2019 11:45:29 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: redcatcherb412

A late family friend (AF vet from the 50s...he was part of the technical team that examined the first MiG-15 we got our hands on) made the same point to me back when clerk-typist Al Gore was running for President...”when you don’t have that level of support behind you, you wind up with disasters, like the Japanese armies that starved to death!”


84 posted on 09/22/2019 11:51:39 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: I want the USA back
Take the comments for what they express. They are wishing you well. Very few are going to help you cut the grass. Accept what you get.

Indeed. I treat it as an empty "Have a nice day." and just move on. To me, I was just "payin' my dues." and expect nothing.

85 posted on 09/22/2019 11:56:46 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Manly Warrior
"...tell us once again how strangers ont eh street seem to know that you are a...Vet Oh, yeah, that spiffy “look at me and thank me for my service” ball cap? Take it off and you are just an older dude walking in WalMart."

Its unfortunate for you that people do not give you that recognition you deserve and crave. Most of the rest of us, even without the assistance of hats and clothing, license plates, regulation haircuts, or quirks like polishing tennis shoes and starching jeans, can identify, not 100%, most of the other vets, especially those who were enlisted, that are around us on a daily basis.

Bearing, tendency for momentary contemplation, deliberate movement, and their observance of the environment around them are the types of things that one might notice. Im one of those people that are apparently easy to identify. I normally wear off brand jeans and a plain crew neck tshirt. I don't walk around discussing the military like some people tend to do yet in public places strangers walk up and say, "Youre a veteran aren't you?" and without a response on my part thank me before they wander off. Occasionally I will meet the gaze of another vet in a public place and there is a subtle silent acknowledgment sometimes little more than a twitch in both eyelids like an aborted blink that tells us both that we know.

I was in a civilian hospital for something a couple of years ago. As I sat in the bed a stranger in scrubs walked in and before he did anything I said "Welcome home corpsman. I feel easier knowing youre here. How long have you been out?" He was shocked that I didn't just know he was a vet but specifically that he had been a corpsman. I wont bother with the thought process that told me who he was in the past and why he was in my room but I knew.

I presently work with people with disabilities. For various reasons I tend to presently work with violent individuals with mental health problems but that hasn't always been the case. When working with someone that has never had sight there is no way should they ask to ever explain in a manner that they will truly ever understand what light or the color blue is. If you truly are the person expressed above you too are blind to a wavelength that I will never be able to make you understand but that doesn't make it any less real.

86 posted on 09/22/2019 12:05:02 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: HighSierra5
My son said that the Infantry is the Army. The rest are supply pukes.

Well...I would amend that to say that combat arms are the Army, and the rest are supply pukes (I was a grunt myself). I'd hate to march in to a full-on war without arty at my back, for example. And, I can say from experience that nothing brings greater joy to a grunt's heart than the sight of several squadrons of Apaches flying over your head and toward the enemy. But yeah, when the average person thinks of a soldier and the life he leads, he's thinking of a grunt.
87 posted on 09/22/2019 12:09:42 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: bgill

I never know how to respond when someone says that to me.


88 posted on 09/22/2019 12:09:58 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him. ~ Sun Tzu)
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To: Starboard
" perfunctory manner"

There are times related to that that tells me by tone and delivery that the message is intended to be just the opposite but someone in management may be watching/listening. It used to bother me until I realized that my existence was pissing off another loser without me having to put any special effort into it. Now I relish those moments as I walk out to the car.

89 posted on 09/22/2019 12:11:18 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
It’s a cliche and it’s thoughtless, the linguistic equivalent of those stupid ribbons people put on the backs of their cars.

It may have gotten stale along with the phrase "Have a nice day" but I find it ridiculous that anyone would object to it or be offended by it. We had a unbearably long period of time (which still persists among some scumbags) where vets were grossly mistreated and maligned. That was as wrong as it gets. Now we're going to complain that everyone thanks them?
90 posted on 09/22/2019 12:14:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: wastoute

Thank you for serving to preserve our freedoms and bless your hands that helped to heal the wounded combat veterans.


91 posted on 09/22/2019 12:15:58 PM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: SamAdams76

I have said for a long time now, that those who have the Hate Has No Home Here signs on their lawns would gleefully wave bye-bye to the cattle cars crammed with Conservatives.


92 posted on 09/22/2019 12:20:38 PM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: NorthMountain

That’s what I told him.


93 posted on 09/22/2019 12:21:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: bgill

I put up the flag every holiday. I’m the AV geek for the town’s November 11 remembrance program. I donate to Toys for Tots. Proud of my Dad’s and uncles’ service. I drink cheap beer at the Legion as an SAL member, and always take time to sit and listen to their stories, if they feel like telling them. But I’ve heard too many stories of shoddy treatment at the hands of the VA.

I thank vets that I’m already in a conversation with, not walk up to total strangers (no reason why, it’s just they always seemed uncomfortable with it).

Reason I say all this is that I thank them for their service because I’m thankful.

Biggest regret I never served - I went to sign up, but it was right at the end of the Vietnam War and the recruiters talked me out of it. Went on to college and work and kids. But all that was only possible by the sacrifices of vets past & present.


94 posted on 09/22/2019 12:22:29 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: jmacusa

He’s proud of his service but at the same time he gets uncomfortable when people gush over him. I can see how proud he is when they do it but then he tells me “it’s what real men did back then”.


95 posted on 09/22/2019 12:23:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Seruzawa
One of my clients was a pilot. I mean, hes clearly not a REAL veteran either, he was way the hell up in the sky. He was under no real threat...

Charlie seemed to think he was a real vet. Poked several holes through him with an AK somewhere along the line.

You hear bad stories sometimes about medical hospitals supporting the front line but whoever originally put him back together had some amazing skills.

I might even be magnanimous enough to support the idea that those people might be REAL vets too.

96 posted on 09/22/2019 12:25:23 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

I understand what the man believes, trust me. I’ve known dozens of men who have been through combat and everyone of them were never comfortable about talking about it or never reveled in it’s horror. They always said “The real heroes are the guys who never came back’’. I learned at a very early age to be quietly respectful of veterans and never to be showy in thanking them.


97 posted on 09/22/2019 12:33:04 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: Ancesthntr

He is surprised at how much better he’s treated now than then but he’s proud of his service. When he joined, his family lived way back in the mountains of TN. They didn’t have electricity or running water. He finished high school but the only way he could go on to school was to do it in the Army. He ended up a licensed electrician and then an electrical engineer. Both of his younger brothers joined too because according to them “that’s what real men did”. All of the men in his family were military until their sons came along. None of them have joined. He thinks the military would be good for all able-bodied young men now. He’s not thrilled with women being in the military. My dog’s Veterinarian and friend of mine is a Desert Storm Vet. The last time he went with me to take a dog to see her he thanked her for her service so he’s coming around.


98 posted on 09/22/2019 12:34:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: jmacusa

I always remember the words of Dick Winters.

“One day my grandson said to me, grandpa were you a hero in the war? And i said to him no I’m not a hero, but I have served in a company full of them.”


99 posted on 09/22/2019 12:34:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bgill
"Comments?"

Yep...suck it up, whiner.

Leni

100 posted on 09/22/2019 12:36:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal ( MAGA ! ! !....MAGA ! ! !....MAGA ! ! !)
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