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Tall Ship Pilgrim Sinks in Dana Point Harbor
San Jose Mercury News ^ | March 29, 2020 | Erika I Ritchie

Posted on 03/29/2020 2:02:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Osage Orange

Yes, perfect explanation.


101 posted on 03/29/2020 7:50:37 PM PDT by just Grace
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To: sheana

I did something similar a (long long) time ago. Bought a Catalina 27 hull that hadn’t sunk, but it might as well have. Put it on the hard for two years, and stripped everything, and I mean everything out. Put in new standing rigging, new sails, hung an outboard on the back for aux power and fitted out the cabin.

Man, I loved that boat. But I just had to have a “bigger boat”....the sailor’s curse.


102 posted on 03/29/2020 7:50:43 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

I don’t remember the make of his sailboat. Just that it was a 35 ft named Angel been a few years. Lol


103 posted on 03/29/2020 7:56:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: just Grace
I'm an old surfer...and that is all I'd ever heard about Dana Point...

Way before I was surfing....

104 posted on 03/29/2020 8:47:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (FWIW)
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To: just Grace
I heard the leaky hull was scheduled for repair this past January, but for some reason is was deferred until July. They probably had a pump working to keep it afloat, but something (further decay?) increased the inflow of water during the night and overwhelmed the pump.

Long ago I spent a terribly cold night on that ship with my daughter's 5th grade class.

105 posted on 03/29/2020 9:15:41 PM PDT by Tellurian (DeMullahkRats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: nickcarraway

“I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by”


106 posted on 03/29/2020 9:28:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: rockinqsranch
Point being they can look great, but they have their secrets until a professional pries them loose.

My understanding was that The Pilgrim stopped sailing several years ago (not sure how long) because it was no longer seaworthy. According a much more detailed article in the Orange County Register, the OI said they had maintained their USCG certifications on the ship. (See: Ocean Institute’s tall ship Pilgrim sinks in Dana Point Harbor)

From the article:

Sheriff’s Harbor Patrol Lt. Chris Corn said institute officials had been battling a slow leak, but it was said to be under control. He spoke with Dan Goldbacher, director of Maritime and Facilities, who told him that the leak was managed with a pump.

“Something was different than it was yesterday,” Goldbacher said on Sunday.

Institute officials said they have been vigilant in the ship’s maintenance, and the Pilgrim underwent regular out-of-the water and underwater inspections. In 2016, it was hauled out for survey and repairs and in October 2019, the institute began fundraising to support the haul out and repairs scheduled to take place in January. The haul out was postponed until June due to overload at the shipyard, said Wendy Marshall, executive director of the institute. Meanwhile, the institute has maintained its certifications with the U.S. Coast Guard.

Now, Marshall said, the ship is likely beyond repair.


107 posted on 03/30/2020 10:52:26 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

IMO these non profits generally can’t keep up with the costs of the maintenance on such things as old wooden ships no matter their good intentions. If the money isn’t there, the ship rots in disrepair. It’s sad as so many with hearts full of hope have done what they can, but to no avail.

The ship is old, and probably needs a new bottom. Having sunk she will require major cleaning, as well as the quality repairs to make her whole again, but good money after bad. It’s time for her to go.

Someday the same will happen if not already, and we haven’t heard about it yet to the Queen Mary over in Long Beach. Just not worth keeping her up. That’ll be a heart breaker to many, but facts are facts. Those old ships cost money to maintain.


108 posted on 03/30/2020 11:21:59 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)
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To: Afterguard

“Keeled to starboard = Heeled to starboard? “

Were in the mist of unchartered waters here!


109 posted on 03/31/2020 1:12:13 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: hanamizu

I just finished Two Years Before the Mast today. You were right, that is a great book. Bit of a barrier on the nautical terms but a great portrait of early California. I’ll wait a while and read it again.


110 posted on 04/10/2020 9:05:11 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised but It Will Be Livestreamed)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Bit of a barrier on the nautical terms...


If you’d like to learn more nautical terms I can recommend the Aubrey-Maturin series of books by Patrick O’Brain. The first in the series is ‘Master and Commander’.


111 posted on 04/11/2020 8:14:15 AM PDT by hanamizu
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