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To: RandFan

It’s a ridiculous blanket statement to say there should be no no-knock raids.

Narcotics dealers aren’t particular friendly when they get a knock and besides getting rid of evidence they can grab their guns.

Would they do something so stupid?

Many MS13 members would open up fire in a NY minute.

As is the whole fallacy of policemen murdering folks left and right, it is based on a few incidents out of how many?

Numbers matter. Stats matter.

It is terrible this happened. Whoever fired without seeing someone holding a weapon should be charged and her family should get remuneration.

But you’re looking for perfect and that’s a communist ideal. Perfect distribution, perfect harmony and other lies..That’s why communism is a disaster and a horror.


19 posted on 06/20/2020 11:57:03 AM PDT by dp0622 (The very future of tihe Republic is at stake. We now know dems will do ANYTHING to win.)
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To: dp0622

They’re very dangerous for all involved and we have heard from law enforcement families who say they dread doing them.


22 posted on 06/20/2020 12:03:50 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: dp0622

see this comment:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3857583/replies?c=4

LE don’t like them either.


32 posted on 06/20/2020 12:54:01 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: dp0622

It’s the correct statement. We managed to get by with no knock raids for decades without a problem. They are a license to kill. They are immoral. They should be illegal. All cops should refuse to participate.

You’re right. The numbers matter, and the biggest number is the number of innocent people who get killed in no knock raids. Wrong house or otherwise. The simple fact most folks, when somebody kicks in their door, are going to try to defend themselves. By the time they find out it’s the cops, you’re probably already dead.

No knock raids MUST BE BANNED. They are the communist ideal, cops do whatever the hell they want and too bad for everybody else.


33 posted on 06/20/2020 12:56:02 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: dp0622

I would permit a no knock raid if the cop who applied and the judge who signed occupied the front of the raid stack. Not the door breaker, the two at the front of the line. And if shooting those two was a misdemeanor not a felony.

Tell me what evidence is worth the several citizen’s lives that they cost every year. And allow that some of them are YOUR wife or kids or parents.


39 posted on 06/20/2020 1:37:33 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: dp0622

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52 posted on 06/20/2020 5:03:51 PM PDT by Maigrey (Life, for a liberal, is one never-ending game of Calvinball. - Giotto)
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To: dp0622
And this is a strawman argument since most regular cops aren't going after MS13 and few groups will take them on to arrest them. Those going after them are Feds or multi-jurisdictional units, not the guy driving around issuing tickets for bike lane violations.

1% of all no-knock raids are needed and legitimate. 99% are not.

If you want to catch them in possession, turn off the sewer line. Cut the power. Cut the water. Quit this John Rambo mess happening across all jurisdictions and sending out SWAT for the littlest thing.

53 posted on 06/20/2020 5:06:54 PM PDT by Maigrey (Life, for a liberal, is one never-ending game of Calvinball. - Giotto)
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