Posted on 06/21/2020 7:59:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Because all the ‘old guys’ have told me so.
Do you doubt the Oneness and Unity of everything, within God?
(If you actually believe in ‘Satan’, then we have nothing more to discuss. That is antithetical to the idea that there is only ONE God.)
You mean satan the created being?
Maybe ‘Satan’ was just a symbol of something - an idea -that unsophisticated people could grasp; and not anything real in itself.
We need to be afraid of what is inside of us and of our own making; not what we imagine is Outside and out to ‘get us’.
Nobody jumped to anything. Jamestown's original post, to which I replied was purely speculative opinion and clearly stated as such: "I personally think it’s going to eventually lead us to one irreducible conclusion."
My reply to his clearly stated opinion was likewise based on the speculative nature of his opinion. I believe (and concur with) Jamestown' opinion that as more and more becomes known about the workings of our universe, the more evident it will point to the inescapable conclusion that there is but one Creator and one Truth. That the father of lies and deceit would want to control, obscure and distort that knowledge is in my mind, a leap of faith, but a very easy leap to make.
"When you grasp the thing still in its pre-nascent state in order to forego proper development, what does that say about your viewpoint?"
It says that our viewpoint is about larger things than the mere construction of a super collider, a project and undertaking that has the potential to unveil more and more of the inner and outer workings of reality, where that information may lead and what may be done with that information.
No, I don’t think you have it right.
What we need to do is worship God who created everything and gave us life, and who sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for our sins and then rise again in the flesh.
If I misunderstood you I apologize.
Thank you. I really like Anselm’s Ontological proof, and now you’ve given me something else of his to enjoy.
I don’t like to interfere aggressively with anyone’s individual religious/spiritual beliefs and convictions. I think those represent an intensely personal, individual orientation, and nobody can decide for anyone else what is ‘right’ or ‘correct’ for the other to believe.
But I DO believe that there are different ways to interpret the meanings of the life and messages of Jesus, as those have come down to us; and I suspect that there are hundreds - if not thousands - who read this forum, who revere Jesus and believe in His teachings, but don’t exactly interpret all of them in the same way - nor in your particular way.
I understand that people who believe profoundly in a certain interpretation of Christianity are convinced that theirs is The Only Way. But there exist more than one rigid way to take useful value and meaning from Jesus and His teachings.
I’m interested in just convincing people to LOOK at it, and consider it; I don’t want to demand that anyone see it in exactly the way that I do.
Jesus doesn’t force belief on others because belief can’t be forced.
Jesus doesn’t force belief on others because belief can’t be forced.
Oh.
I guess that’s whom I learned it from.
Gnostic teachings are the lowest of low IQ.
Otherwise known as postmodernism. It’s mentally retarded.
I’m not sure how you conflate the people we call ‘Gnostics’ - about whose beliefs we really understand so little - with ‘postmodernism’.
Postmodernists don’t seem to have faith in much at all, but mere human intellect; descendants of the earliest Gnostics died for their Faith.
But, carry on.
The belief of the Gnostics is no mystery.
They believe in denying Christ. Nothing more to it.
Postmodernists are the same. It might seem to come from a different angle, but they seek the same end and like the Gnostics, with their methods they succeed only in shooting themselves in the foot. They don’t know it but they’re bleeding to death.
Well, you keep believing what you do; and I’ll keep trying to understand the Gnostics. I think they had something valuable going on...
Look, if YOU were involved in super colliders YOU would want a bigger one! Come one, you know it. The first bang of atoms would be fun but you just know you’d look at your buddies and say, “Doods! Let’s make a bigger one!”
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