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Rep. Matt Gaetz and Rep. Ken Buck call for Article V Convention
Twitter ^ | Aug 4 | Rep. Matt Gaetz

Posted on 08/04/2020 11:37:35 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: RandFan
Ken Buck is my Rep. Cory Gardner was his predecessor.

Previously, he was District Attorney, and his claim to fame was getting one of the first 'hate crime' convictions.

(Guy found out 'she' was a he, and beat 'it' to death with a fire extenguisher.)

I don't trust Buck OR Gardner. Well, we won't have to worry about Gardner much longer. Say hello to Senator Chickenpooper.

21 posted on 08/05/2020 5:15:03 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Masks are not about controlling a virus. Masks are about controlling people.)
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To: real saxophonist

Buck is a good guy I think you can trust him. He is friends with Massie and very conservative compared to some of his colleagues


22 posted on 08/05/2020 5:17:17 AM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: RandFan
He seems to be, but that 'hate crime' thing was a HUGE deal here at the time.

Hate crime. How many crimes are committed with love in one's heart?

23 posted on 08/05/2020 5:21:14 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Masks are not about controlling a virus. Masks are about controlling people.)
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To: Skywise

“This will open the door to turn the country full on socialism. Obama is just salivating and waiting to turn our limited government into a full-on “proactive” government that can force people to do his bidding.

They’ll destroy both the 1st and 2nd amendment right off the bat.”

Wrong! Either ignorant, or purposeful disinformation. Only thing that comes out are specific proposed amendments, that still must be ratified by 34 of the states. Nothing idiotic will get far. But term limits will save the country.


24 posted on 08/05/2020 5:36:02 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a communist plan!)
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To: RandFan

I read a review of The Swamp that said Gaetz is the star and Buck is boring. Massie is the third one.


25 posted on 08/05/2020 5:39:18 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: RandFan

The part that I don’t get is why would Leftist judges pay attention to a revised Constitution when they don’t even pay attention to the existing one?

Nope, doesn’t do any good. Like it or not, once the Left gets absolute power it’s OVER (meaning control of the White House and the Courts, only, Congress won’t matter as the courts will neuter them). The only options for conservatives at that point is to:
1) Submit, and watch the country die
2) Leave (although Americans will see far fewer options than they have now)
3) Civil war

So, we conservatives LOSE, regardless of any modifications to the Constitution...and we help our side lose by bickering and ‘making statements’, like voting Third Party because so-and-so doesn’t pass our ‘purity’ test, or because Roberts is a jerk.

We fight now, in the political arena, but if we lose, there WILL NOT be a tomorrow. The Democrats let us come back twice in recent years, they will NEVER, EVER, permit that again* - not with this bunch. And those on our side who cannot comprehend that, DESERVE all of the punishment that they will get, if they help the Democrats achieve that goal.

*and it’s easy for them to do. Legalize everyone, make PR and DC states, end enforcement of voting laws (via their judges), ballot harvesting, etc. Not only will we never win, we’ll never get close again (think California).


26 posted on 08/05/2020 5:41:56 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; SauronOfMordor; WWG1WWA
"We need to enforce the PRESENT Constitution !"

And where do you think Article V comes from? Do you honestly believe that only congress should be able to write amendments? Allowing the states to write amendments is quintessential federalism.


"The Constitution we currently have, is much more conservative than the electorate which would be deciding how to change it"

If you don't trust the current electorate, then it's already too late...


"NO! Don’t risk our rights!... We have to keep the 2A!

If it wasn't for Article V, we would not have the 2nd Amendment, or the Constitution, for that matter.

27 posted on 08/05/2020 6:41:12 AM PDT by NaturalScience
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To: 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Arthur McGowan; Arthur Wildfire! March; arthurus; ...

Article V ping.


28 posted on 08/05/2020 8:36:43 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: RandFan; Skywise
Here's an informed source:

The John Birch Society v. We the People Part I.

29 posted on 08/05/2020 8:37:24 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Skywise; RandFan; Bullish; srmanuel; central_va; Basket_of_Deplorables

To Skywise: If Article V was the portal to socialism, why hasn’t the Left been screeching for a convention?


30 posted on 08/05/2020 8:40:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Publius

Ping to #29 and 30.


31 posted on 08/05/2020 8:41:31 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Exactly


32 posted on 08/05/2020 8:48:24 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: pepsionice

Actually, 3/4.


33 posted on 08/05/2020 8:59:47 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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To: BobL

Speaking of Lesser Evils, McConnell and McCarthy are conspicuously absent from the relief bill talks (Schumer, Pelosi, Trump Admin). Do THEY want Trump to fail also?


34 posted on 08/05/2020 9:06:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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To: Jacquerie

You seem to have forgotten what Obama and the Democrats have been talking about and expanding on for the last decade

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/09/23/why-the-fuss-obama-has-long-been-on-record-in-favor-of-redistribution/

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2008/11/03/barack-obamas-poor-understanding-of-the-constitution

You open the door for a rewrite of the constitution and you’ll have social justice and economic justice and racial justice shoved down your throat with “positive liberties” given to you by the government.


35 posted on 08/05/2020 9:07:39 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Skywise
The Convention of States is written to cancel the call if the Convention goes outside the bounds of the call. If merely 2/3's of States making the call was sufficient it would have been called many times already. This means the conditions of the call are already an established precedent .

Article V is not some artificial construction outside the Constitution. It is the Constitution and was made for a time when power centralized in the District of Criminals . They failed to use it in time to stop the First Democrat-Republican War. We must not fail a second time.

36 posted on 08/05/2020 10:23:07 AM PDT by Nateman
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To: Skywise

That’s okay. I never expected you to check out the link.


37 posted on 08/05/2020 10:58:30 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

That’s ok - I didn’t expect you to defend your trolling either.

The fact remains that if you open up this can of worms we WILL get amendments along the lines of prohibition and economic redistribution.


38 posted on 08/05/2020 11:06:28 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: NaturalScience
"If you don't trust the current electorate, then it's already too late..."

That's only part of the problem. It's the people who count the votes that is the remainder of it.

39 posted on 08/05/2020 2:53:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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