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Why renewables canít save the planet (Or, how an environmentalist got mugged by reality) 17min video well worth the time!!
Youtube ^ | Jan 4, 2019 | Michael Shellenberger

Posted on 09/28/2020 3:43:00 PM PDT by aquila48

Environmentalists have long promoted renewable energy sources like solar panels and wind farms to save the climate. But what about when those technologies destroy the environment? In this provocative talk, Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment” and energy expert, Michael Shellenberger explains why solar and wind farms require so much land for mining and energy production, and an alternative path to saving both the climate and the natural environment. Michael Shellenberger is a Time Magazine Hero of the Environment and President of Environmental Progress, a research and policy organization. A lifelong environmentalist, Michael changed his mind about nuclear energy and has helped save enough nuclear reactors to prevent an increase in carbon emissions equivalent to adding more than 10 million cars to the road. He lives in Berkeley, California.

(Well worth watching and spreading.)

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Excellent presentation by an honest, sane environmentalist.

I loathe most environazis. This guy ain't one of them.

1 posted on 09/28/2020 3:43:00 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Bookmark to watch when I get done with work.


2 posted on 09/28/2020 3:56:26 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: aquila48

Ping.

Reminds me of Penn & Teller show on this stuff. It was pretty good. But very profane and explicit sometimes.


3 posted on 09/28/2020 4:00:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I)
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To: aquila48

Solar panels work and batteries work

do you wanna keep in the utility forever? go for it

I have thousands of customers that don’t need them at all ; or just simply use them and don’t even pay them for it!


4 posted on 09/28/2020 4:01:44 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump Pence II! Save America again)
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But they will have to buy new batteries in a few short yrs.


5 posted on 09/28/2020 4:03:37 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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Where do they get the energy to mine all the minerals needed to make those batteries?


6 posted on 09/28/2020 4:05:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Truthoverpower

They work in some applications.


7 posted on 09/28/2020 4:05:18 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Truthoverpower

I smell bullshit.
What state do you live in?


8 posted on 09/28/2020 4:13:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: aquila48

As an Engineer, I have known this for my entire professional career of 35 years. But policy and it funding is driven by politicians.


9 posted on 09/28/2020 4:15:03 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: aquila48

“Why renewables can’t save the planet...”
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The planet does not need to be saved.
It is doing just fine.


10 posted on 09/28/2020 4:17:25 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Truthoverpower

As one that has lived on solar, they can work, but are far from clean. Good for power at remote locations, boats and such. Far far from being clean from an environmental point of view.


11 posted on 09/28/2020 4:17:51 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The show was called Bulls**t (replace the ** with the actual letters) and ran on Showtime for 6 or 8 seasons. I have them all on DVD and even though the series was cancelled over 10 years ago, it still holds up today.


12 posted on 09/28/2020 4:18:14 PM PDT by Intar
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To: Truthoverpower

I would like to “keep in the utility”.
(whatever the heck you think that means)


13 posted on 09/28/2020 4:19:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: D Rider

“As an Engineer, I have known this for my entire professional career of 35 years.”

Best college course I took was thermodynamics. It was taught by a former astronaut. He had the class work through every idiot idea, all of which are still being pushed today. Even making wild assumptions about increases in efficiencies due to technology changes, none of the energy ideas made sense compared to oil, coal or natural gas. Even those technologies touting their cleanliness were not so clean when you took into consideration their entire lifecycle of dirt and destruction.

“Sustainability” is a scam.


14 posted on 09/28/2020 4:29:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: aquila48

Finally someone with sense.


15 posted on 09/28/2020 4:32:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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Where do they get the energy to mine all the minerals needed to make those batteries?

Solar powered excavators....come on man!

Let’s talk about monolithic decommissioned wind turbine blades choking up landfills or toxic solar panels classified as hazardous waste. Batteries? Another toxic waste....

Is there anything liberals haven’t screwed up or failed at?

16 posted on 09/28/2020 4:33:06 PM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4764208/Child-miners-aged-four-living-hell-Earth.html


17 posted on 09/28/2020 4:33:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The planet does not need to be saved. It is doing just fine.

The People are f*****!

18 posted on 09/28/2020 4:35:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Intar

Oh I know what it was. Just it was VERY X-rated.

Too bad they couldn’t just stick with the actual subject than having naked guys and girls around all the time, never mind the cussing!


19 posted on 09/28/2020 4:35:36 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I)
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To: Gen.Blather

The problem is often, the precise definition of “efficiency”.

Compared to what?

The classic study and example was heat pumps.

They’d state how “efficient” it was because they’d squeeze some heat out of whatever air was blowing by. But they were not measuring how much energy was going into even running the thing. Nor certainly, comparing how much genuine degrees were generated vs. something like a gas furnace.

The claims of “efficiency” by all these appliance standards and so on is largely the same smoke & mirrors.


20 posted on 09/28/2020 4:39:07 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I)
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