Skip to comments.Did the Russians Hack the DNC to Help Bernie Sanders and the Socialist Left?
Posted on 07/21/2018 10:52:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Russia conspiracy theory hinges on the single creaky claim that the Democratic National Committee hacks were a Russian plot to elect Trump. The theory and all its illegitimate stepchildren, including Robert Mueller and his infinitely expanding corps of prosecutors, lives or dies by the DNC hacks.
Trying to elect Trump by releasing damaging insider information from the DNC never made any sense. The DNC was already a dysfunctional organization that was being run by the Clinton campaign. Undermining its leadership had little impact on the election, but a great deal on control of the DNC.
There has never been any evidence that the DNC hacks swung the election. The vast majority of people never even heard of them. Only a handful of political insiders and watchers, already deeply and unpersuadably committed to one side or another, could name the contents of a single email.
When you want to understand the motive of a crime, follow the money. See who benefited from it, not casually, but deeply and significantly enough to justify the effort and risk of undertaking it.
The hacks targeted Clinton allies and sought to undermine their influence within the Democrat Party.
Russiagates fervent conspiracy theorists spin an unlikely scenario in which Moscow had picked Trump early on, and then abandoned him in a crowded field against 16 candidates, while assuming that he would naturally triumph. Instead of leaking Jeb Bushs campaign emails or Marco Rubios, they bided their time and waited to release Debbie Wasserman-Schultzs and John Podestas emails.
Thats not a plan to help Trump win. It is a plan to take over the DNC.
Lets look at what the Russians were actually doing during the election. They had set up fake Facebook sites aimed at the left on issues ranging from Black Lives Matter to the pipeline protests. That is not the behavior of a foreign intelligence operation that wanted Trump to win and the left to lose. Instead the Russians appeared to have allied with the left to push the Democrats even further to the left.
Targeting the DNCs infrastructure also pushed the Democrats further to the left. The email hacks and leaks didnt elect Trump, but did shake up the DNC. Bernie Sanders reemerged as the figurehead of a leftist movement to take over the DNC. Bernies boy, Keith Ellison, claimed the No. 2 spot at the DNC. And Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez, the lefts current crush, is the latest triumph for that machine.
The socialist left were the biggest beneficiaries of the DNC hacks. The stolen emails confirmed claims by the Bernie campaign that the process had been rigged against them. It justified their campaign to clean up the mess by taking over the DNC while wiping out key Democrats who had been opposed to them.
The left was also the political movement with the richest and deepest connections to Russian intelligence. The media claims that Putin and his old KGB comrades are the natural allies of the right, but the alliance between the far left and Russian intelligence agencies dates back almost a century.
Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. Its hard to find a Marxist dictatorship backed by Russia that the elderly socialist hasnt praised and supported at the expense of our national interests. Bernie praised Castro, he supported the Sandinistas, and his foreign policy was little more than a KGB wish list.
Certainly Russian intelligence services would have been aware of Bernie Sanders as a political sympathizer and maintained a file on him. On a visit to the Soviet Union, he would have interacted with KGB personnel or those reporting to them: as was true of any important foreign visitor at the time.
Is it really farfetched to believe that a lefty politician, who had a history of visiting and supporting Communist and Marxist countries, and their agendas, didnt receive some support from Moscow?
The political movement that Bernie Sanders emerged from was notorious for its Russian ties.
. As Discover the Networks notes, Sanders had worked as an organizer for the United Packinghouse Workers Union (UPWU) which was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities for its Communist ties. An article in Class Struggle magazine described UPWU as one of the "communist led or influenced unions". Sanders had also spent time at a pro-Soviet Kibbutz.
While the media pursued Trump over his ties to Russian businessmen, Bernie had direct ties to organizations controlled directly or indirectly by Russian intelligence agencies.
Bernie flew a Soviet flag outside his office. As Paul Sperry noted, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to the triumph of Soviet power in the US.
Given all this, is it really implausible that the Russians were trying to help Bernie Sanders?
The media made a great deal out of a memo by the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll factory, allegedly claiming, use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump--we support them.) This memo likely had more to do with the Agencys objective of blending in on the left and the right to embed pro-Russian content than with Moscows larger political objectives, but the media quickly skips over the Sanders part of that memo while treating the Trump part as damning.
But if the Russians were trying to back a politician, would Trump or Bernie have been their choice?
Trump favors a strong foreign policy based on our national interests. Bernie boasts of opposing our national interests. Trump wants a strong America; Bernie wants an international socialist alliance.
But the Russians didnt believe they could rig an election. They wouldnt have believed that they could make Bernie president or even a presidential nominee. However they may have rightly thought that they could push the Democrats further to the left and boost their political allies within the DNC.
The Democrat hacks did little for Trump, but they gave Bernie a shot at taking over the DNC.
If we assume that Russias project was well-planned, proportional and successful, which considering the track record of their operations in this country is a sensible assumption, then that is what happened.
The post-election Dems are obsessed with Russia, but theyve also moved further to the left. And, regardless of the rhetoric, the Russians spent generations building up ties with the American left.
Whether its Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein or any of the other socialists, the DNC hacks weakened the Democrat establishment and strengthened a movement that Russia once used as its hand puppet.
The Democrats have made plenty of cracks about Trump as a Manchurian Candidate. But the movies Manchurian candidate was publicly opposed to Russia while secretly benefiting from Russian election interference. That doesnt describe Trump. It could describe Bernie Sanders. Or many others on the left.
Jill Stein, who initially cashed in by raising money for an election recount, fell afoul of Russiagate and is using recount cash to pay for the legal expenses of the Senate Intelligence Committees investigation of Russian election interference. The money is going to the Partnership for Civil Justice, part of the International Action Center, and allegedly a front for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party.
The left has been crying, Russia and Treason on every network and in every newspaper. It might want to consider what a real investigation of its ties to Russian intelligence agencies will turn up.
Jill Stein was definitely an object of their efforts. Not that they thought she would win. Just meddle.
I suspect they just want chaos for the sake of chaos.
Seth Rich "hacked" the DNC.
Imo, the CIA did the hack & left hack fingerprints pointing to the Russians as the hackers.
RTFO. Let it all hang out.
Putins guys were organizing both pro- and anti-Trump protests after the election. You gotta hand it to them - theres nothing the Russians do better than stirring up crap:
[After the election of Donald Trump in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies in support of then president-elect Trump, while simultaneously using other false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies protesting the results of the 2016 U.S. presidential election, the Robert Mueller indictment of 13 Russian nationals charges. For example, in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally in New York through one group designed to show your support for President-Elect Donald Trump held on or about November 12, 2016. At the same time, Defendants and their co-conspirators, through another group, organized a rally in New York called Trump is NOT my President held on or about November 12, 2016. Similarly, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally entitled Charlotte Against Trump in Charlotte, North Carolina, held on or about November 19, 2016.]
Now, the Democrats are getting all huffy because they see a stick they can use to beat up Republicans. They’re not really concerned about the Russians. Do you see them proposing a billion dollar lethal aid bill for Ukraine? No. Do you see them looking to increase our nuclear missile force to deal with the Putin’s expansion of the Russian missile arsenal? No.
> “Did the Russians Hack the DNC to Help Bernie Sanders and the Socialist Left?”
I appreciate and admire Daniel’s perspectives, passion, and writing ability but this headline question is completely out of sync with reality.
Daniel should not wade into this CIA/FBI clusterf*ck. They are spewing disinformation left and right trying to confuse everyone and convince people that Trump needs to be removed because Trump is going to remove them.
For those coming up to speed, the Rothschild empire has been executing a slow takeover of the United States spanning decades. Trump and MI/NSA are reversing their advance. and the entire Mocking Bird Media is slamming Trump 24/7 to try to stop him and those behind him.
This is war.
If anyone has heard recently in their community. on television, in social media, among neighbors, friends, family, words to the effect “I’ve never seen anything like this before”, those words are true. We are witnessing, like watching a movie, a war play out in the media. There is also a war in the background. At least a dozen assassination attempts have been launched against the President.
In a nutshell, there were terabytes of data that were taken from servers of democrats and also phones. They were not taken directly by Russians over the internet. It would be like sucking an elephant through a straw.
The Russians AND THE CHINESE used an inside contact to get the data and then pipe it to spies who were set up INSIDE THE UNITED STATES with trunk lines.
Who was the contact that executed the inside job?
Why was Seth Rich murdered?
Because he caught on to what Imran was doing.
Imran had ties to MS-13. (documented)
Seth was murdered by MS-13.
Now, look at this one week old George Webb video (14 minutes) that details what went down:
Then a MUST-SEE is a larger historical perspective, watch ALL of this video by a fine Christ8an ‘Blessed To Teach’. He stumbles sometimes with words but his information and perspective are good and pure:
Daniel> You are scaring me because you are making sense about something that has been twisted and diverted, namely who and why was the DNC computers hacked in the first place.
The Lunatic Left is the main winner. Hillary the Clueless is the main loser, and Trump is caught in the middle by the Mueller/Strzok/Page/McCabe/Comey Deep Intelligence State and the hardcore Marxist “Obama Deep State”.
If the Russians are responsible for the DNC hacking and some of the Steele Dossier damage to Trump, then Putin and the boys have really done a great job of covert subversion and disinformation.
But them again, the congressional Democrats NEVER seriously looked into an Communist/Soviet/Russian/Cuban etc espionage and subversion since the 1970’s. They had destroyed almost all of Congress’s internal security committees/subcommittees (SPCUA,HCUA, HISC, SISS, SACB - US govt operation and parts of the FBI and CIA counter-intelligence organizations (i.e. thru the Church Committee, the Pike Committee, Boland Committee later one, Kerry’s Subcom. on Latin America, etc).
Right now there are more “reds” in Congress than ever before (a few old Communist Party “friends”; Democratic Socialists of America - the majority faction in the Progressive Democrats Caucus and Black Congressional Caucus; a couple supporters of Red China including Judy Chu - formerly of the maost Communist Workers Party; and a few oddballs who support a lot of far-left groups.
IF what you, Daniel, have written is true, then the next hit Moscow Square entertain show will be entitled “Putin On the Blitz”, akin to “Springtime for Hitler and Germany” of “The Producers”.
However, it will be nothing to laugh at.
“There has never been any evidence that the DNC hacks swung the election.”
Then why are we still discussing this?
Multiple forensic IT examinations of the Wikileaks files dumped from the DNC server by qualified experts including those at the NSA (per the now retired head of NSA Digital Services) found that the time stamps between sequential file downloads show the file dumps were downloaded from the server at a speed of ~49MegaBytes per second. Multiple tests across the Internet backbone using the fastest routes possible to points external over the internet succeeded in only achieving ~12.5 Megabytes per second maximum transfer rates.
The only way to achieve 49 MegaByte transfers was using a directly connected Solid State device such as a Flash Drive or Thumb Drive attached to the DNC servers USB port. Ergo, it was not a remote hack but an inside theft by someone who had password access to these data!
The Russians did not hack the DNC. The truthful emails , revealing the corrupt and rigged party nomination process we obtained by Wikileaks from a thumb drive because the data was 3 times too large to move over the Internet .
I didn't know George Soros was a Russian agent.
There is danger in believing the Deep State, Zhang Fei.
Believe NOTHING they say. Nothing.
Well.... If they did.... They did a pretty lousy job of it.
Now that they have dropped the mask,we need to give back the color red to the New Democratic socialist party.
Ah, the Lyndon LaRouche Rothschild conspiracy crowd weighs in again.
How does anyone know who, or if, the DNC server was hacked if it wasn’t examined? The most vital piece of forensic evidence in this entire Russian hoax is missing and people should take absurd articles like this seriously?
There was no outside hack by anyonne of the DNC.
His name was Seth Rich
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