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Larry Sabato: "Red Wave Ain't Going To Happen, It's Just A Question About How Big The Blue Wave Is"
RCP Video ^ | 10-10-2018 | Ian Schwartz

Posted on 10/10/2018 6:03:04 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

University of Virginia Center for Politics Director Larry Sabato joins MSNBC's 'MTP Daily' with host Chuck Todd to discuss the Republicans struggling in states Trump won in 2016.

Sabato said Trump is in trouble in the Midwest, a part of the country where he did well in 2016, and it "seems to be flipping" in the midterm year. He said the states he carried, it appears, to elect Democratic Senators.

"Even if the Republicans hold the Senate given the very pro-Republican math that exists, President Trump is in trouble in some of these states," Sabato said. "He's fallen considerably as a whole."

"This also reminds us that 2016 was a choice," he said. "It wasn't simply that people decided to vote for Donald Trump in a vacuum. Many of them were voting against Hillary Clinton. Maybe you dispute the premise of it, but essentially it's a two-pronged decision."

Chuck Todd agreed with the premise and said the media made the mistake of believing the 2016 election was a "referendum on Trump when it was actually more of a referendum on [Hillary Clinton]."

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2018midterms; 2020election; bluewave; chucktodd; delusion; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2018; election2020; fantasy; larrysabato; mediawingofthednc; msnbc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; redwave; sabato; smearmachine; virginia; zogbyism; zogsmagicsauce
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This is 'conventional wisdom' speaking from Sabato and Todd.

I hope they are both wrong, as wrong as the 2016 election prediction.

1 posted on 10/10/2018 6:03:04 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Surrender the “Blue” name Commie Reds.


2 posted on 10/10/2018 6:04:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Sir Napsalot

BTW, Sabato revealed himself no better than your typical paid pollsters in the last election cycle.

Take his analysis with a grain of salt.


3 posted on 10/10/2018 6:04:52 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Clinton 322
Trump 216

That was Sabato’s prediction in 2016.


4 posted on 10/10/2018 6:05:35 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah, Trump is in trouble. Look at all those sad rallies of his where only 300 or so people show up, most of them probably paid party operatives.

Things are looking so bad for the Republicans this midterm election that I don’t even see much point in voting...

/s


5 posted on 10/10/2018 6:06:32 AM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: Sir Napsalot

How can the president have “fallen considerably as a whole” while his approval numbers are inching up? This makes no sense to me - how can a country vote out someone who has miraculously turned the economy around in less than 2 years? Lots of jobs, income growth....people should be crawling to vote Republican.


6 posted on 10/10/2018 6:07:15 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Sir Napsalot
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Larry Sabato's Big Blue Wave

7 posted on 10/10/2018 6:08:02 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Maybe in their vacuum in Virginia . . .


8 posted on 10/10/2018 6:08:29 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Sir Napsalot
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/our-final-2016-picks/

yeah Larry after blowing 2016 so badly, you might want to dial it in. Blow 3 elections in a row this badly why would anyone, other then CNN, ever take you seriously again?

9 posted on 10/10/2018 6:09:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Day of the 2016 presidential election: Larry Sabato predicting on Fox (you can see it on YouTube): “For Trump to be elected something GIANT has to happen. Hillary: 326 electoral votes”. Mr. Sabato’s crystal ball apparently has cataracts.


10 posted on 10/10/2018 6:09:32 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Sir Napsalot

The second Kavanaugh was confirmed the entire MSM pivoted back to “blue wave.” What are the fundamentals Larry? What supports “blue wave” other than dem rage?

Most of the polls I am looking at show things trending away from the democrats. And don’t hand me that “the Senate is different” poop. The Senate races are trending because of overall voter enthusiasm picking up for the GOP. Like that won’t translate to the house races.


11 posted on 10/10/2018 6:09:44 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Junk Silver
"Red Wave Ain't Going To Happen, It's Just A Question About How Big The Blue Wave Is"


12 posted on 10/10/2018 6:09:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: JudyinCanada

Maybe it’s rat fake news.


13 posted on 10/10/2018 6:10:02 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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I've noticed that there seems to be no discussion of Republican Senator who might lose his seat. All I hear is just how many Democratic seats we will take.

No Red wave my ass.
14 posted on 10/10/2018 6:10:42 AM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Personal Responsibility

For about a decade, everyone felt that Larry had some ‘magic’ on predictions. In 2016, he’s basically been proven dramatically wrong. On the House, there is no Red or Blue wave....I think it mostly just remains the same. On the Senate...at least three Democratic seats to be taken as a minimum...maybe up to six.


15 posted on 10/10/2018 6:11:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Sir Napsalot

Okay Crystal Balls. We will see.


16 posted on 10/10/2018 6:12:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sabato and Todd, unloveable losers.


17 posted on 10/10/2018 6:13:06 AM PDT by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: pepsionice

>> On the Senate...at least three Democratic seats to be taken as a minimum...maybe up to six.

You mean stolen. < /s >


18 posted on 10/10/2018 6:13:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Sir Napsalot

We will find out in about 4 weeks.


19 posted on 10/10/2018 6:13:29 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: petitfour

You wouldn’t believe what a sanity vacuum Charlottesville is.

One of my daughter’s lives there and is one of 12 known conservatives in town.

It’s Berkeley East. San Francisco without the human waste. A living breathing Star Wars Bar scene.

This is the environment Sabato lives in. One bereft of the opportunity to see or even know anyone who doesn’t think in lockstep.


20 posted on 10/10/2018 6:13:37 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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