Skip to comments.Pastor Leads Christian Movement Opposing Homosexual Agenda in NC Schools
Posted on 12/15/2003 7:16:16 PM PST by Kuksool
A coalition of evangelical Christians has successfully fended off a campaign by homosexual activists in one North Carolina school district.
Members of the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) have been pressuring the Winston-Salem/Forsyth School Board to include "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" in the district's nondiscrimination policy. However, the board recently decided not to revise its policy.
Pastor Ron Baity of Berean Baptist Church in Winston-Salem led a coalition of Christians that opposed the pro-homosexual effort. He says for a long time homosexual activists, and especially the GLSEN crowd, have been coming to the school board meetings and pushing their agenda, while not a single church in the area came and spoke out against their movement.
When his group finally got organized to start attending the board meetings and making their voices heard, he says members of the board said "We've been wondering where the churches are at." But Baity says as a result of the coalition speaking out, things started to change immediately.
"It's been a real burst of spiritual energy for our people because they've been encouraged to see that if you do get involved, there is a possibility that you can make a change," the coalition leader notes. "It's amazing what you can accomplish if you get a group of people together of like mind and just approach the authorities," Baity says.
The pastor contends that the people pushing the homosexual agenda in America are in the minority, but he says, "they speak as if they are the majority -- and the majority of Bible-believing people need to rise up and get actively involved."
Baity believes Christians today are suffering the consequences of having been silent too long on important societal issues.
So the Rev. Baity supports discrimination against gay students.
I wonder if Jesus Christ, who spent much of his time with the sick, the poor, prostitutes,criminals, drunkards and other outcasts, would take the same position?
And if you need the quotes from Jesus or the Bible condemning homosexuality as evil, you aren't qualified to be posting about it. Look it up for yourself.
BTW, Jesus never condoned being a drunk, prostitute or criminal. Quite the opposite.
If you think Jesus would condone the persecution of gay teenagers, you don't understand His teachings at all
When Jesus associated with the lowly, such as prostitutes and criminals, he told them to change their ways! And as far as the sick, he healed them in body and even more important, in spirit. As far as the poor, he told them to lay up riches in Heaven. I don't know why you're lumping "poor and sick" in with "prostitutes and criminals".
Jesus never tolerated sinful or immoral behavior. He told people to clean up their act, and to turn their love to God, and live a godly life.
It looks as though Rev. Baity is attempting to follow in Jesus Christ's footsteps, rather than offend him by promoting or "celebrating" immoral sex acts under the banner of "tolerance" like so many other CINO reverends and other members of the clergy (shall we say Episcopalian?).
How does persecution enter into simply putting a stop to the promotion of homosexuality?
I'm quite sure that you are familiar with the New Testament. Could you please explain it here in relation to promoting the gay agenda in public shcool? Perhaps those of us less familiar would like to know how you have come to believe that Jesus would promote acceptance and tolerance of homosexuality, an abomination and a mortal sin? You got your chance now, so go to town, it should be interesting.
This statement contains several misconceptions.
1. Most teenagers that you call "gay" are confused. Many, with some therapy, guidance, or even the opportunity to hear about basic moral teachings, would eschew sexual immorality. Many of these so-called "outreach" organizations are reaching out to "gay, lesbian, transgendered, bisexual, straight and QUESTIONING teens". Why "questioning", one may ask? Answer: because many teenagers have doubts or questions about their own sexualtiy, due to a sexually libertine atmosphere, unhealthy doses of sexually explicit material seen before they've reached the age of reason, broken families, drug and alcohol use that has diminished their reasoning capacity, and last but not least, a lot of them have been sexually abused or seduced, often by older homosexuals.
So these "outreach" organizations (such as the one in Vermont, which I will post a link to) are obvious tools with which to recruit confused kids into the ranks of homosexuals.
2. "Gay" teenagers are not being persecuted. This is a fiction. All kids taunt and tease each other, but so-called "gay" teenagers are not taunted any more than any other. Additionally, sometimes the ones identifying as "gay" bring it upon themselves by cross-dressing or other bizarre behavior - often to shock, or bring upon themselves attention or reaction. I'd say kids trying to pray or wearing religious insignia have been vicitmized more often.
3. Jesus told the adulteress to "sin no more". And that she was forgiven. But the "sin no more" was first. It's called "tough love".
I'll be happy to answer your questions as soon as you cite for me the Gospel verse in which Jesus discusses homosexuality.
There's a couple of different angles with which to tackle this. And past experience tells me you don't really want to talk about it, but I'll ask the most direct question, anyway: Do you happen to know any verse where Jesus discussed sex outside of marriage? You know, such as where Jesus said go and sin no more? That verse tends to take the air (and that's all thats in your argument) right out of any argument regarding what Jesus said about all sex outside of marriage. Hint
If you were as familiar with the gosppel as you claim, you wouldn't be asking. Homosexuals go to hell, as the NT said (that's right, the NT said it and you'd know it if you have the familiarity with the NT as you claim). Jesus quite plainly said that not a tittle or jot would pass from the law and the law quite plainly condems homosexuality. Now, quit the sophistry game , it won't work with me.
Get a bible and study it and you may find your beliefs to be in error on this subject.
Don't expect any more posts from me. I don't involve myself in debates with those who have no qualifications on the subject, which you seem to be insisting on demonstrating.
I'm not surprised that you're running away in embarrassment since it's obvious you don't know the scriptures as well as you claim to and have been proven wrong
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