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Daniel Pipes: The "Fun-Loving" Terrorist Who Was Good to His Mother
Capitalism Magazine ^ | December 21, 2003 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 12/22/2003 3:25:45 PM PST by presidio9

The news last month that police had arrested Sajid Badat at his home in Gloucester, England, shook many Britons.

The charges against him concerned his training with al-Qaida in Afghanistan and his possessing PETN explosives, the same substance would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid had tried to set off. Police believe Badat intended to carry off the very first suicide bombing in the United Kingdom.

But not everyone was shaken by this news. Gloucester's Muslim community esteemed Badat too much to credit the charges. One admirer called him "a walking angel" and "the bright star of our mosque."

Another described him as "a friendly, warm, fun-loving character." A cousin insisted Badat was "nothing more than a friendly, sociable, normal young lad, who had lots of friends and did not hold extreme views in any way."

Interestingly, a similar gulf in attitudes recurs almost every time a supporter of militant Islam has either been arrested on terrorism-related charges or engaged in an actual terrorist operation.

Consider three other European examples:

"He was a very nice person. He used to train our kids. He was very jolly and always laughing." This eulogy by a mosque leader describes Wail al Dhaleai, a British immigrant of Yemeni origins who carried out a suicide attack against US troops in Iraq. Another mosque figure called Dhaleai a "jolly fine gentleman" and a neighbor noted how he went "out of his way to help the children." Dhaleai's martial arts coach added, "He just made you laugh. – I cannot say enough nice things about him. He was such a nice guy."

"He was just a big teddy bear – honorable and very polite – a well-liked and respected pupil": those are some of the depictions of Asif Hanif, a Briton of Pakistan origins who blew himself up in a Tel Aviv pub, killing three.

"He was smart, clever and kind, a really nice boy." That's Zacarias Moussaoui, sometimes known as 9/11's "twentieth hijacker," as described by his older brother. The same admiration for accused terrorists also gets expressed in the United States:

"He was the nicest guy. He didn't mess with anybody," said Iyman Faris's former employer right after Faris, an Ohio trucker of Pakistani origins, had pleaded guilty to providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to provide support. Faris's stepson spoke endearingly of his stepfather's "very good sense of humor."

"Just a normal, good-natured young man who dreamed of a family of his own, whose young adult years in [Florida] were filled with driving children to school, buying groceries and taking college courses." That's the Miami Herald paraphrasing his family talking about Adnan Gulshair El'Shukri-jumah, a Florida-raised Saudi suspected of being an al-Qaida member who helped with 9/11, and someone the FBI considers "a very, very, very serious threat."

"She was an educated person, concerned with educating people about Islam." She here is Aafia Siddiqui as portrayed by her imam, a Pakistani woman sought for questioning about ties to al-Qaida. And similar responses are found in the Muslim world – for example this case from Thailand's Muslim-majority south:

"Friendly and charming – a kind person," someone beloved by villagers for offering free health checks and cheap medicine; that's how a religious leader described Waemahadi Wae-dao, a medical doctor arrested on charges of planning to bomb embassies and tourist spots in Thailand. Such high regard for terrorists has several important implications. First, it points to the adherents of militant Islam being indeed "normal, good-natured young" people, and not misfits. In common with other totalitarian movements, militant Islam finds support among many accomplished, talented, and attractive individuals -- which renders it all the more dangerous a threat.

Second, the fact that those who murder on behalf of militant Islam often enjoy psychological soundness, educational attainment, sporting success, economic achievement, or social esteem suggests that Islamist violence cannot be reduced by adopting the "root causes" approach of addressing personal poverty and despair. The phenomenon needs to be fought head-on.

Third, that terrorists are (unsurprisingly) skilled at hiding their intentions has the unfortunate consequence of making them harder to discern and therefore spreads suspicion to the larger Muslim community. This in turn points to that community's heightened responsibility and incentive to ferret out potential terrorists in its midst.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 12/22/2003 3:25:46 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
"He was just a big teddy bear – honorable and very polite – a well-liked and respected pupil": those are some of the depictions of Asif Hanif, a Briton of Pakistan origins who blew himself up in a Tel Aviv pub, killing three.

A shameless attempt to but a smiley face on a killer. Let's see, he blew himself up and killed 3 others...doesn't sound so honorable OR polite to me. Scum is scum.

2 posted on 12/22/2003 3:33:54 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: presidio9
"...that terrorists are (unsurprisingly) skilled at hiding their intentions has the unfortunate consequence of making them harder to discern and therefore spreads suspicion to the larger Muslim community. This in turn points to that community's heightened responsibility and incentive to ferret out potential terrorists in its midst."

This last paragraph says it all.

3 posted on 12/22/2003 4:07:26 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: presidio9
Hot Pipes!
4 posted on 12/22/2003 4:08:43 PM PST by tet68
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To: highlander_UW

"He was just a big teddy bear..."

It wasn't like he blew up three Allah fearing "people".
They were just zionist "entities".
5 posted on 12/22/2003 4:15:44 PM PST by tet68
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To: semaj
When W. enunciated the Bush doctrine - you are either with us or with the terrorists - I really did not anticipate that it would take years for many factions around the world to clearly distance themselves from the likes of the 9/11 perpetrators.

I think it is not only Muslims waiting on the fence to see which horse to back, but also in the nature of how comfortably the terrorist's creed nestles into the bosom of the free society.

6 posted on 12/22/2003 4:18:08 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: presidio9
But there is a point to be made here. And that is that no achieves perfection in anything. These people are loved by their families and friends while the World defines them by one act, an act of terrorism.
It's said that Hitler loved children and they loved him. He also loved dogs. It doesn't redeem him as a man of course but it does mean that he wasn't perfectly evil. This business of painting Saddam Hussein or the next villain (Usama having been dead these last two years) to appear on our radar screen as the next Hitler or being Hitler-like is just stupid and an impediment to understanding breadth and depth of evil in this world. Thinking in simple terms is thinking for the simple.
7 posted on 12/22/2003 4:37:10 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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"And that is that no achieves perfection in anything. These people are loved by their families and friends while the World defines them by one act, an act of terrorism."

Well, yeah. The "world" tends to judge the vegetarians, the animal lovers, the non-cigarette smokers when they take to genocide or acts of terrorism.

I mean, cuddlying with Fluffy is one thing; sending people to death camps or putting them in shredding machines is quite another.

8 posted on 12/22/2003 4:46:28 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: thegreatbeast
But there is a point to be made here. And that is that no achieves perfection in anything. These people are loved by their families and friends while the World defines them by one act, an act of terrorism. It's said that Hitler loved children and they loved him. He also loved dogs. It doesn't redeem him as a man of course but it does mean that he wasn't perfectly evil. This business of painting Saddam Hussein or the next villain (Usama having been dead these last two years) to appear on our radar screen as the next Hitler or being Hitler-like is just stupid and an impediment to understanding breadth and depth of evil in this world. Thinking in simple terms is thinking for the simple.

I understand your what you're saying here, but I'd point out that it was this individual that defined himself through a single act of terrorism. To be sure, before that act, he had many qualities, and no doubt many of them were fine, desirable ones. He chose to throw all of that away in a final act of evil. Note that I did not say he was "all evil", but murdering people is an evil act, particularly in a selfish wish to reach his 72 virgins can be painted in no other colors. This is not a matter of simply dismissing a person or people by demonizing them. The Bible says by their fruits you will know them (Matthew 7:20). The rotten nature of this sort of fruit is plainly evident.

9 posted on 12/22/2003 4:52:10 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: presidio9
Just another article proving that these people are lying cowards.
10 posted on 12/22/2003 4:53:11 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: highlander_UW
No argument here.
11 posted on 12/22/2003 4:54:15 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: presidio9
Excellent examples of the complicitness of 'peace-loving' 'mainstream' muslims.
12 posted on 12/22/2003 4:55:47 PM PST by tubavil
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To: Reactionary
But putting a Hitler mask on Hussein helps how? Why is Hitler the Perfect Evil and not Stalin or Mao?

It is a child's game, being simplistic.
13 posted on 12/22/2003 4:56:59 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: thegreatbeast
I never asserted that Hitler was a "perfectly evil" man.

I agree with you, however, that he is generally portrayed that way. People seem to accept the good intentions of Stalinists, Maoists, but they certainly don't accept that Hitler meant to do anything of any value at all.

It may be because fascists rejected the principle of human equality completely.

14 posted on 12/22/2003 6:07:21 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: thegreatbeast
How is comparing one evil-acting human who may have a warm, caring side and be loved by puppies to another human being who we think had some redeeming qualities, but was also terribly evil "stupid and an impediment to understanding breadth and depth of evil in this world"?

Don't go overboard with nuance; thinking that everyone else is thinking in simple terms is thinking for Noam Chomsky.
15 posted on 12/22/2003 7:08:16 PM PST by m1911
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To: presidio9
pipes ping~
16 posted on 12/22/2003 9:58:34 PM PST by lainde
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To: presidio9
"Interestingly, a similar gulf in attitudes recurs almost every time a supporter of militant Islam has either been arrested on terrorism-related charges or engaged in an actual terrorist operation."

It goes further and deeper than that. What do people usually say when someone from their church, school, office or neighborhood snaps and goes on a shooting spree? : )

But yeah, these folks are often good at hiding intentions. This is why we should impliment global mind control as soon as possible.










what?


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17 posted on 12/22/2003 11:36:37 PM PST by jedwardtremlett ((Dubai, UAE))
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To: thegreatbeast
Why is Hitler the Perfect Evil and not Stalin or Mao?

That is a question that I have wrestled with for ages, and there is no easy answer to it.

I think that part of the answer may be understood, if we can understand why fascism is always presented as a "right-wing" ideology, when it is, in fact, just another variant of socialism.

In terms of being an absolute cause of human misery, Hitler was pretty small-time when compared to either Stalin or Mao. Yet he has the worse reputation. Was it because half of Hitler's victims were Jews, and much of the intellectual elite in this country is Jewish?

One aspect of the Hitler question that I find disturbing is that while Hitler, the man, has been rejected, the modern left still enthusiastically supports many of his ideas, e.g., his support for animal-rights and vegetarianism, or eugenics.

18 posted on 12/23/2003 12:19:32 AM PST by exDemMom (I just joined the Army. Wow.)
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