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CNN shakes up news administration
CBSMarketwatch ^ | 01/23/04 | Jon Friedman

Posted on 01/23/2004 7:10:30 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: StarFan
They surely are taken with each other, aren't they?
41 posted on 01/23/2004 9:25:24 PM PST by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper
CNN was threatened to be dropped off the channel lineup of DISH Network. I was watching the CEO of Echostar, Charlie Ergen, explain that CNN has dismal ratings, no one watches them, and they bear the burden of paying for a channel no one watches. It may have been an idea tossed out there, but I know Charlie Ergen really cares about all of us DISH Network customers by giving them the kind of channels they want at a fair price.

That was definitely a shot across the bow aimed directly at Time Warner management. The media conglomerates are increasingly trying to screw the cable and satellite companies, both by annually jacking up the amount they charge the cablecos for channels that the cablecos couldn't possibly ever drop without their subscribers going nuts (ESPN, for example), and also by making the cablecos some "offers they can't refuse": "Oh, you're not going to run CNN? Okay then, we're not going to allow you to run any Time Warner networks then. No Cartoon Network, no HBO, no Cinemax, no TBS, no TNT..." Any cable company that couldn't run any of those channels would end up out of business. It's pretty much legalized extortion. And it's why almost all the new channels you get on digital cable and satellite are owned by the same three or four media conglomerates: When the yearly contracts come up, they say, "Okay, you're going to start carrying MTV 14, and pay us for it. Take it or leave it."

I've been saying for a long time that the day is coming where cable and satellite companies are going to switch to a la carte programming, where you pay only for the channels you want. Whether this happens because the cablecos finally get some backbone, or because they get the FCC to mandate it, I don't know. But the showdown is coming.

42 posted on 01/23/2004 9:26:12 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Thanks for jarring my memory, thats what I was thinking of. It's been a decade since I been in television. Mostly doing radio these days.

You're probably having more fun, too. :)

I just want to get back in the biz, radio or TV, I don't care. I don't even care that it's crawling with liberals. It's in my blood.

43 posted on 01/23/2004 9:28:11 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: adam_az
I've certainly noticed it. When they all cover the same event, like the SOTU address, the audio of FOX has more bass and punch than MSNBC and CNN and it's easier to listen to. Without adjustments to my set, flipping between the three, MSNBC to me looks like it lacks color, CNN is slightly better, and FOX is about where I would normally like it. As for the audio, to me, CNN is softest, followed by MSNBC, and then FOX.
44 posted on 01/23/2004 9:28:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Timesink
Don't get me wrong, I didn't mind television. I worked at a cable access channel while going to broadcast college back in 1989. Loads of fun, and it was small enough I got to do everything from host, run camera, direct, and run the switches. I'm in small market radio, similar sort of workload as like a small cable access , TV channel. LOL

Never a moment to stand around with my hands in my pockets looking like I was lost. LOL

Radio is a blast, no matter where your at. :)

45 posted on 01/23/2004 9:32:13 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: adam_az
Also, I think Susan Esterich got some plastic surgery! anyone else notice that?

I can honestly say the answer to that question is NO. :)

46 posted on 01/23/2004 9:32:13 PM PST by Timesink (Two fonts walk into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here.")
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To: Timesink
Yep, alot of DISH Network subscribers went nuts when DISH yanked ABC Family because Disney raised their prices across the board two years ago. Disney fought long and hard, DISH threatened to take them to court, then Disney lowered their price to a fair rate when DISH yanked ABC Family, while leaving everything else.

Personally, it was no big deal for me, but that's another example of a provider trying to strongarm a media giant.

47 posted on 01/23/2004 9:39:05 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Timesink
I'd like to see an ala carte subscription scheme setup myself. There's alot of crap I don't watch or have no intention of watching. Especially some of the Community Service channels like Free Speech TV. It's a liberal whacko cesspool. Years ago, when I had a large backyard dish, in the days before media conglomeration, I could literally sit down, and pick and choose the channels I wanted. Charlie Ergen said he'd love to do that, but in this day and age, he'd get conglomerates like Time Warner torqued off.
48 posted on 01/23/2004 9:47:28 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Timesink
Isn't this latest 5 year program in the last 2 years?
49 posted on 01/23/2004 10:47:31 PM PST by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein & me)
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To: Timesink
bttt
50 posted on 01/23/2004 10:54:12 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Pikamax
I did not realize that CNN was still broadcasting.
51 posted on 01/23/2004 11:24:47 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Pikamax
"...Hair said the company was making changes because it wanted to "increase the degree to which newsgathering and programming are fully integrated. Nowhere is this integration more important than in our DC bureau."..."

First, fire every-single-klintoon-suckhole in the Company!

Second, ya might as well sell the half-dozen or so people left to FOX News.

Third, convert all the real estate into homo-condos or low-rent housing for 'minorities'.

"...Kross didn't return a phone call placed to her in the Washington bureau..."

D'ya think she's pissed?...............FRegards

52 posted on 01/23/2004 11:58:56 PM PST by gonzo ("Apres Moe, Le Deluge " ------------ Larry and Curly got wet....)
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To: Pikamax
Hey folks, give them a chance.
They knocked the crap out of Michael Jackson last week and Howard Dean for the past five days. I was impressed!
53 posted on 01/24/2004 12:05:48 AM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: Timesink
You in news anywhere now, Tator?

I used to own a small chain of Radio Stations.... sold them to Clear Channel a few years ago.

I also had a broadcast software company. The last thing I did was the software that switched Time Warner Cable news Channels from video tape to digital a few years back. I sold that product line a few years ago. I mostly goof off and wake up every morning wondering why I'm not dead yet.

54 posted on 01/24/2004 2:22:52 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: okie01
The third envelope said "Leave three envelopes...."
55 posted on 01/24/2004 6:02:53 AM PST by justaguy (, but what do I know.......?)
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To: Common Tator
CNN's idea of attracting new viewers was to run that digusting zipper ad when Paula Zahn defected from FNC.
56 posted on 01/24/2004 7:04:40 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: OldFriend
They are doing the things Ailes invented to attract new viewers. They are running the fast paced slides with strong bumper music to start segments. They are using pretty news babes to read the news. They are copying the look and feel of Fox.

They actually do well at getting channel flippers to stop. I don't remember the exact number but the average viewer stays tuned to FOX for 45 minutes or so. The average viewer at CNN stays for about a third of that length of time.

CNN actually has more people stop on the channel than Fox... The people that stop don't stay tuned. That screams that it is not the look that is the problem, it is the content. But each new boss tries to make a better content.

There is only one reason a channel programmer who wants to keep his job fails to fix the content. If he did they would fire him before the audience went up.

Time warner is like a King that goes a doctor and tells the doctor that if he prescribes the medicine that will cure him, he will have him beheaded. Then the king wonders why no doctor can cure him.

57 posted on 01/24/2004 7:45:52 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Pikamax
Shuffle all you want, if you don't knock off the "slant" we're still staying away.
58 posted on 01/24/2004 12:05:14 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Pikamax
CNN can shake all it wants, it will still be a haven for whining, bed-wetting lefites to ply their trade, and that is the reason no one really cares to watch CNN...
59 posted on 01/24/2004 12:08:13 PM PST by irish guard
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To: StarFan
No kidding on the Larry King/Aaron Brown lovefest. And no kidding on Aaron not having a wit's worth of anything to say. I really detest that guy.
60 posted on 01/24/2004 12:08:31 PM PST by Endeavor
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