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For all who missed it on C-Span...
1 posted on 02/15/2004 12:02:52 PM PST by Dutchgirl
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He may be a quadriplegic in a wheelchair, but Charles Krauthammer stands head and shoulders above any other political writer these days...in my opinion. What an intellect!
61 posted on 02/15/2004 5:42:54 PM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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Thanks for the post. Very good article. Interesting discussion bump.
62 posted on 02/15/2004 5:45:11 PM PST by PGalt
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2-B-C
65 posted on 02/15/2004 6:18:44 PM PST by rdb3 (You're fired.)
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"First, because we do not have the imperial culture of Rome. We are an Athenian republic, even more republican and infinitely more democratic than Athens."

We aren't "infinitely more democratic than Athens." After all, the Athenians selected some of their political leaders by drawing lots. We are only "infintely more democratic" in the sense that we are more egalitarian.

67 posted on 02/15/2004 6:26:56 PM PST by Reactionary
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Thanks for this post -- The speech was great on C-Span.
69 posted on 02/15/2004 6:47:27 PM PST by Museum Twenty (Support the President - wear the Baseball Cap - display the Bumper Sticker - http://www.ilovew.com .)
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Wow! I wish I'd seen his speech.
70 posted on 02/15/2004 6:55:44 PM PST by PogySailor
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An interesting article. You might contrast it with this one, which touches on many of the same points.
71 posted on 02/15/2004 7:03:56 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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Wow! This IS a great article. In fact, there are some nice pieces here, that point to both the hypocrisy and the danger of liberals...who do believe in using force, but not in the national interests of the US. The irony in so much of what liberal utopiates want to accomplish, is that they wouldn't be able to accomplish any of their own goals without the supremacy of the US. That of course, is also part of the hypocrisy, as it is liberals who overwhelmingly use the US military to enforce their ideals of morality and humanitarianism. And yet, it is they who seek to diminsh US supremacy...either through treaties that tie our hands, or their wars, which do nothing to secure US interests...and in many cases, cause the very backlash they accuse Bush of creating with our allies.

Liberals wish to create this global equality, failing to realize that it is only US power that could ever actually impliment such a policy. Their idea that a conglomerate of UN nations, with different ideals, cultures, governments, etc., can somehow unite for common cause and solve the world's problems, when our very own Congress of semi like-minded individuals, can't agree on anything, is naive at best...and dangerous at worst. Liberals seem to think that by binding the US, the rest of the world will be better off...not realizing that it is at those times when the rest of the world most misbehaves and challenges, not just the USA, but the princliples of freedom and democracy, as other countries get threatened by their neighbors...whether it is fascism, socialism, communism or our latest -ism, Islamism. To weaken the US at a time when we are again facing a threatening force is ignorant...yet that is what some Democrats argue when they talk about the UN and multilateralism. Of course, when it is a Democratic president, they never worry about such menial tasks.

72 posted on 02/15/2004 7:17:36 PM PST by cwb (Kerry may have saved one man but he abandoned thousands of others)
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Krauthammer may not support the Second Amendment, but on foreign policy. simply BRILLIANT! Bish should make him Secretary of State.

75 posted on 02/15/2004 7:56:25 PM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR JOE MCCARTHY!!!)
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I saw some of it, but it's great to read all of it. Thanks for posting this .. and I did Bookmark it.
76 posted on 02/15/2004 8:50:25 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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BTT
79 posted on 02/15/2004 9:54:06 PM PST by nopardons
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Great post.

Why? No sentient being could believe that, say, the chemical or biological weapons treaties were anything more than transparently useless.

Because leftists are humanists - they believe that their good intentions and meaningful, soulful speeches are enough to sway the masses to give peace a chance. They bvelieve in the absolute power of their words. They are always wrong. Witness Clinton and North Korea. Only a liberal would trust a Communist.

80 posted on 02/15/2004 10:04:54 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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Moreover, the doctrine of preemption against openly hostile states pursuing weapons of mass destruction is an improvement on classical deterrence. Traditionally, we deterred the use of WMDs by the threat of retaliation after we’d been attacked--and that’s too late; the point of preemption is to deter the very acquisition of WMDs in the first place.

Whether or not Iraq had large stockpiles of WMDs, the very fact that the United States overthrew a hostile regime that repeatedly refused to come clean on its weapons has had precisely this deterrent effect. We are safer today not just because Saddam is gone, but because Libya and any others contemplating trafficking with WMDs, have--for the first time--seen that it carries a cost, a very high cost.

What is really scary is that we are probably only one more RAT administration away from having the problem of WMD's and rogue states spin totally out control. IMO it is impossible to envision any RAT who could actually win their nomination within the next 10 years having the political courage and determination to launch a preemptive strike on another member of the Axis of Evil or any number of other rogue/terrorist organizations that pose a serious threat to the people of the United States if that is what is required.

The real definition of an "imminent threat" should be any WMD program that can be developed within the time frame of the next RAT administration. Bush can't say that, but it is true.

We will have to hope and pray (and vote for) that Bush wins a second term so he can continue to neutralize the most serious threats on the horizon( N. Korea, Iran, Pakistan, etc. ,etc.) . I'm not totally satisfied with Bush43 (Too much spending on non-security related programs,weak on the immigration problem, etc), but overall I think he has performed well, especially with regard to national security. That issue trumps everything else.

81 posted on 02/15/2004 10:06:43 PM PST by Norman Arbuthnot
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Reading later.
82 posted on 02/15/2004 10:07:47 PM PST by BunnySlippers (a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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BTTT
85 posted on 02/15/2004 10:20:17 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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Bump for later.
86 posted on 02/15/2004 10:22:03 PM PST by Bernard Marx (In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice there is.)
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Ya'll might find this of interest. Thoughts?
87 posted on 02/15/2004 10:26:45 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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Bump for later read.
88 posted on 02/15/2004 10:50:33 PM PST by PA Engineer
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BTTT...Just excellent!
91 posted on 02/15/2004 11:24:12 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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Krauthammer continually and conveniently ignores, handwaves, the real moral problem of both the neocon and liberal policy he describes, Communist China. It's almost like a holy friggin' 3rd rail.

92 posted on 02/15/2004 11:32:19 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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