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Iraq council approves interim constitution
Reuters ^ | 3/8/04

Posted on 03/08/2004 3:05:56 AM PST by William McKinley

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1 posted on 03/08/2004 3:05:56 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
Do you know if there's a copy of this constitution on the web (Translated, of course)?
2 posted on 03/08/2004 3:08:59 AM PST by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: William McKinley
I expect the mainstream liberal press will bury this story under reports speculating over who has received subpoenas in the CIA bogus investigation. Either that, or they will lead the story with a Kerry quote and spin.
3 posted on 03/08/2004 3:49:39 AM PST by jrlc (Just for Kerry - STOP THE BUSH BASHING)
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To: William McKinley
From the Yahoo AP tory: "There is no doubt that this document will strengthen Iraqi unity in a way never seen before," said Massoud Barzani, a Kurdish leader on the council. "This is the first time that we Kurds feel that we are citizens of Iraq."

That must a be pretty good Constitution. Let's hope their future generations respect and heed it more than our Leftists do today.

4 posted on 03/08/2004 3:54:57 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: William McKinley
But...but...but, I thought there was no "Post-War Plan"?

What gives?
5 posted on 03/08/2004 4:08:11 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("I'll never know how much it cost to see my sin upon that cross.")
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To: William McKinley
One of those that objected to the constitution was our "friend" Ahmed Chalabi. The negotiations on Friday was very hard with Kurdish members accusing the Shiites of harboring a greater loyalty to Iran than to Iraq. Sistani intervened and had no objection to the signing.
6 posted on 03/08/2004 4:10:03 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: William McKinley
This is great news, things are looking up for the Iraqis as the weeks pass by. (Good for America and Bush also, tdids)

Even Nation Palestinian Radio NPR reported it on the radio this am in a positive light. (there just wasnt anything else to listen to)

Im surprised that it was signed today actually. Excellent.

7 posted on 03/08/2004 4:31:59 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: William McKinley
Since the failure to sign was reported as an embarassment to President Bush on Friday, why isn't the signing reported as a triumph for President Bush today?
8 posted on 03/08/2004 4:34:13 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: William McKinley
Ellen Rattner is deeply saddened.
9 posted on 03/08/2004 4:35:13 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: William McKinley
Senator Daschel is deeply saddened!
10 posted on 03/08/2004 4:39:02 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: William McKinley; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
   To America's Soldiers 

11 posted on 03/08/2004 5:10:52 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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AMERICAN SOLDIER, BUMPPPPPPPPPP!
12 posted on 03/08/2004 5:12:02 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: William McKinley
Great news!
13 posted on 03/08/2004 5:17:26 AM PST by PGalt
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To: William McKinley
How can this happen without the French ?
14 posted on 03/08/2004 5:58:06 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: norwaypinesavage
why isn't the signing reported as a triumph for President Bush today?

I'm sure its an unintentional oversight which will be corrected immediately when its discovered.

15 posted on 03/08/2004 6:00:29 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Wonderful front page! Thank you for the ping!
16 posted on 03/08/2004 6:49:19 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: William McKinley
Others present say the cleric would have liked to push for changes, but felt the furthest he could go was to make his objections clear and leave it up to the politicians to do what they felt necessary.

Why is it that one religion is right and all the rest are wrong?

17 posted on 03/08/2004 7:20:52 AM PST by Stagerite ("Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: jrlc
AP version:

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Today: March 08, 2004 at 6:35:39 PST

Iraqi Council Signs Interim Constitution

By HAMZA HENDAWI
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -

Iraq's Governing Council signed a landmark interim constitution Monday after resolving a political impasse sparked by objections from the country's most powerful cleric. The signing was a key step in U.S. plans to hand over power to the Iraqis by July 1.

Before an audience of prominent Iraqi and American civilian and military officials, including the top administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, the 25 council members signed the document on an antique desk once owned by King Faisal I, Iraq's first monarch.

Council president Mohammed Bahr al-Ulloum called the signing a "historic moment, decisive in the history of Iraq."

"There is no doubt that this document will strengthen Iraqi unity in a way never seen before," said Massoud Barzani, a Kurdish leader on the council. "This is the first time that we Kurds feel that we are citizens of Iraq."

But there were signs that a dispute that delayed plans to sign the constitution on Friday might surface again. Council member Ibrahim al-Jaafari read a statement signed by 12 of the 13 Shiite council members that said they agreed to sign the interim constitution without demanding changes in order to safeguard national unity. Last week, bombers carried out deadly attacks on Shiite pilgrims in Baghdad and Karbala.

Several Shiite council members said a clause that was in dispute, which would give Kurds more power, will be subject to further negotiations. They said the clause might be amended in an addendum to the interim constitution that is expected to be issued next month to decide the shape and functions of an interim government that will take over from the U.S.-led coalition on June 30.

The signing came nine days after a deadline set in a U.S. timetable. The delay was caused by a mourning period following bomb attacks on Shiite shrines, as well as political wrangling on the U.S.-picked council. The impasse strained relations between Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders and highlighted the power of Iraq's Shiite clergy.

The charter - which includes a 13-article bill of rights, enshrines Islam as one of the bases of law and outlines the shape of a parliament and presidency as well as a federal structure for the country. It will remain in effect until a permanent constitution is approved by a national referendum planned for late 2005.

About an hour before the signing ceremony began, insurgents fired mortar shells at two police stations in central Baghdad, injuring four people, including one policeman, Iraqi officials said.

Iraqi and U.S. officials still must agree on a method to create the government that will take power on June 30 and serve until national elections due by Jan. 31 - a task that will likely need help from the United Nations.

Monday's ceremony was a sign of unity after a similar ceremony planned for Friday fell apart when five of the council's 13 Shiite members refused to sign the document because Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani objected to a key clause requested by the Kurds. The last-minute disruption embarrassed U.S. coalition officials and angered others on the council who saw as it as a Shiite attempt to grab more power.

After urgent talks over the weekend, al-Sistani signaled to the five Shiite dissenters that he would not oppose the constitution despite his reservations, and the document was signed Monday without changes.

"We must put the interests of our nation above all of our interests. The world is waiting and expecting us to work in the service of our nation," Bahr al-Ulloum told council members in a meeting Monday before the signing. The members then unanimously approved the document with a show of hands.

Bremer will endorse the document in a separate letter congratulating the council members, who include 13 Shiites, five Kurds, five Sunni Arabs, a Christian and an ethnic Turk.

Al-Sistani's opposition focused on a clause in the draft that gave Iraq's Kurdish minority the power to veto a permanent constitution even if the Shiite majority approved it in the referendum.

The disputed clause in the draft said that the referendum on the permanent constitution would fail if two thirds of the population in any three provinces reject it - even if it gains a majority nationwide. The Kurds, who control Iraq's three northern provinces, wanted the clause to ensure that no charter could be passed that encroaches on their self-rule region in the north.

Al-Sistani, however, said the clause gave a minority an unfair veto over the majority's will, Shiite officials said.

The intervention by the powerful 75-year-old cleric angered Sunnis and Kurds, who refused to change the draft. Throughout negotiations on the charter in past weeks, some council members have complained that Shiites on the council repeatedly went back on agreements because of al-Sistani's opinions.

"To say that the Shiite religious leadership is now meddling in politics is to understate the case," said senior politician Naseer Kamel al-Chaderchi, a Sunni Arab council member. "The majority must not be allowed to usurp the rights of others."

The Shiites' decision Sunday to go ahead with signing the charter as is - even though al-Sistani still had reservations - appeared to be a recognition of the bitterness the dispute was raising among other members.

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18 posted on 03/08/2004 7:21:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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About an hour before the signing ceremony began, insurgents fired mortar shells at two police stations in central Baghdad, injuring four people, including one policeman, Iraqi officials said.

A pretty mild response from the terrorists!

19 posted on 03/08/2004 7:23:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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A wonderful front page from the POST!
20 posted on 03/08/2004 7:24:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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