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By May 1996, Scarpa had relayed to the FBI the types and densities of explosives that Yousef said he could get past airport metal detectors and X-ray machines. Scarpa also learned how to conceal wiring and a 9-volt battery needed to detonate a bomb in an electric razor or toy.

Yousef described how explosives and detonators could be hidden in shoe heels - five years before terrorist Richard Reed tried to ignite his sneakers on a flight from Paris to Miami.

So, if I have this straight, Janet Reno KNEW of a potential plot with SHOE BOMBS -- and she knew FIVE YEARS before it happened?

Somebody call Ben-Vineste!

1 posted on 04/11/2004 11:49:24 AM PDT by Howlin
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Interesting.
2 posted on 04/11/2004 11:51:01 AM PDT by Howlin (Ask me what I got for my birthday....will ya?)
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To: Howlin
BTTT.

How reliable is all of this, any idea??
5 posted on 04/11/2004 11:59:49 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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Fascinating post.

The story line reads like the beginning of film - like a flashback or introduction.

(The end hasn't been written yet).
6 posted on 04/11/2004 12:03:17 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: Howlin
that's Ramzi the Iraqi, nephew of Khalid Sheik Mohammed.

7 posted on 04/11/2004 12:03:42 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter-- now providing aid, comfort and talking points to our enemies.)
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Janet Reno KNEW of a potential plot with SHOE BOMBS -- and she knew FIVE YEARS before it happened

When can we expect her to appear before the 9/11 Commission?!

8 posted on 04/11/2004 12:06:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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Why should they do anything? The Paleoterrorists and the al Qaeda terrorists were DNC contributors.


1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Saudi Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on it goes .........


10 posted on 04/11/2004 12:11:14 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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So, if I have this straight, Janet Reno KNEW of a potential plot with SHOE BOMBS -- and she knew FIVE YEARS before it happened?

Somebody call Ben-Vineste!

The dims on the committee and in the media will never allow this to get into mainstream. "The People" {meaning the demonrats of course} need to be protected, you know.

13 posted on 04/11/2004 12:14:24 PM PDT by fella
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Have you seen this????

FORENSIC-INTELLIGENCE.ORG

Fox News (Rebecca Gomez reporting) just had a story on this and I'm sorry I just caught the tail end of it....maybe it will be repeated on a later newscast....so it's out there in the media, but how mainstream it goes, one can only hope!!!

14 posted on 04/11/2004 12:14:48 PM PDT by soozla (1-877KARZFORKIDZ - makeitstop!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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May 10, 1999

It's Not Life, But Close

Colombo mobster Gregory Scarpa Jr. was slammed last week with a 40 year sentence for racketeering and other crimes by a Brooklyn Federal Judge who rejected his plea for leniency and downplayed his spying on a known terrorist for the FBI.

Judge Reena Raggi dismissed his year of spying against World Trade Center bombing mastermind Ramzi Yousef while they were prison mates as insignificant at best and more likely "part of a scam."

At his trial, Scarpa testified that he alerted the FBI of plots to kill a judge and a prosecutor. He also described how he used a tiny two-inch spy camera to photograph bomb formulas that Yousef slipped through the cracks in the wall of their cells.

Scarpa, 47, was acquitted of five murders which each carried a life sentence, but convicted of racketeering and separate counts of loansharking, bookmaking and tax fraud. He admitted at trial that he was inducted into the Mafia, but claimed the crimes in his six-count indictment were all committed by his father, Greg Sr., a Colombo capo and a top-echelon FBI informant for 30 years.


http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:J8LMyrDvq1YJ:www.ganglandnews.com/column125.htm+Gregory+Scarpa+Jr,+yousef&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
19 posted on 04/11/2004 12:25:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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20 posted on 04/11/2004 12:29:02 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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This is on Fox right now!
22 posted on 04/11/2004 12:37:47 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Howlin
Interesting article.

What did Janet Reno know, and when did she know it?

This is just one more good reason why there should not be "criminal prosecutions" for terrorists. These people need to be isolated incommunicato for the duration. They are dangerous even behind bars.

This sort of jumped out at me:

(Yousef) was insisting the wiseguy convert to Islam to prove his trust - and Scarpa obliged.

...Scarpa later told the feds he still "considers himself a Catholic and still eats pork," an FBI report stated.

I've got bad news for Scarpa. He may consider himself a Catholic, but the Muslims still consider him a Muslim. There is no such thing as "faking it" when you say the words converting to Islam. It's a one way street, whether you are serious about it or not.

He can look for a capital punishment fatwa placed against him, if one already hasn't already been issued.

24 posted on 04/11/2004 12:44:54 PM PDT by Gritty ("We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you"-Hezbolla)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115387/posts?page=24#24

The Scarpa-Yousef story may get the attention of the 9-11 Commission. Someon has sent a letter to them.
25 posted on 04/11/2004 12:59:44 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter-- now providing aid, comfort and talking points to our enemies.)
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Also, would someone please send off a note to the head of the Chappequidick School of Swimming, Teddy Kennedy?
26 posted on 04/11/2004 1:07:03 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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"Yousef said his people are only going to use the passports for one trip, to board the planes to be hijacked," the report ominously stated.

Hmm...."one trip"...only the geniuses at FBI could miss the obvious reference to suicide attacks.

In October 1998 - in a trial where Scarpa publicly revealed his assistance to the FBI - the mobster was convicted of murder conspiracy. The feds downplayed his cooperation.

More proof the FBI are idiots. Who will help them now in the future? Morons.

28 posted on 04/11/2004 1:58:44 PM PDT by montag813
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The links are here on this thread. Yesterday, I posted the letter on the PDB thread, at post #111. Stephen Dresch , a former state representative from Michigan's Upper Peninsula, runs a kind of investigative service now.

ThE "Intelligence Timeline" reveals that Yousef knew about something happening to a TWA or AA flight that fateful day, before it happened.

From the timeline:

July 2, 1996 (FBI 302, date investigated June 29, 1996) Yousef spoke of Bojinga doing the bombing in Saudi Arabia. Yousef stated that he was originally sent on that mission to check the security measures and that tanker truck was discussed.

July 17, 1996 (FBI 302) TWA Flight 800 crashed killing 230 passengers off Long Island, New York. Yousef asked to use the telephone the night of July 17, 1996 he also had a visit with his attorney until 10:00pm and still requested use of the telephone which was denied.

July 18, 1996 ( FBI 302) Jerry Koupakis a former U.S. Customs Agent that was corrupt told Scarpa that he told his father not to travel TWA or American Airlines on the morning of July 18, 1996. Yousef told him this information prior to July 18, 1996.

July 23/24, 1996 (FBI 302 & Handwritten) Ismoil told Scarpa, "I told you this is going to happen." He was also referencing a conversation Scarpa and he had months prior where Ismoil said that "nothing would be left of New York just give it some time."

Who dropped the ball?

38 posted on 04/11/2004 4:31:53 PM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (What did the Iraqis celebrate on the day Flight 800 went down? A liberation day for them?)
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"Somebody call Ben-Vineste!"

Sorry, refuse to speak to "Dick" Ben.

40 posted on 04/11/2004 4:37:22 PM PDT by justanotherday (mis spellers of the world: untie!)
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"In December 1996, Yousef got word from bin Laden himself on the need for five or six passports for plane hijackings set for the following April, a lengthy FBI report showed."

Where's the hearings on this? Could this be the hijacking info included in the PDB. According to Senator Graham, the hijacking information in the PDB was at least 3 years old.

45 posted on 04/11/2004 6:06:16 PM PDT by mass55th
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This link takes you to a fairly long article by Laurie Mylroie from "The National Interest", Winter, 1995/96. Entitled "THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB: Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters." It's long but worth the read because it deals with the connection between the '93 WTC bombing and Iraq. I apologize if it's been posted previously on FR.

Click Here

52 posted on 04/11/2004 7:01:23 PM PDT by mass55th
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Janet Reno KNEW of a potential plot with SHOE BOMBS -- and she knew FIVE YEARS before it happened? Somebody call Ben-Vineste

Janet Reno KNEW of a potential plot with SHOE BOMBS -- and she knew FIVE YEARS before it happened? Somebody call Ben-Vineste

Worth Repeating.

Also....Ben Veniste is a Mob Lawyer.

53 posted on 04/11/2004 7:28:10 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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