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Must do better(Howell Raines on why Kerry will loose.)
The Guardian ^ | June 2, 2004 | Howell Raines

Posted on 06/01/2004 10:27:05 PM PDT by ijcr

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This article reveals the mindset of the NYT...Lying and breaking your word are ok as long as your intentions are good.

However, not very deep in his black heart is the spectacle of defeat in November.

1 posted on 06/01/2004 10:27:06 PM PDT by ijcr
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As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy...
Kerry the first war-hero candidate since Kennedy?

What the hell were George Bush and Bob Dole? Chopped liver?


2 posted on 06/01/2004 10:33:08 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: ijcr
Republican party's mastery of what the pundits call "hammer-and-chisel politics", in which an opponent's reputation is destroyed through relentless pounding on one or two simple ideas.

Is that like what the Clintoonistas did all summer long before the 96 election, to Bob Dole who had no funds to fight back with, until after the convention.

Yea it's those evil Republicans, they're the lowlifes.

GAG ME ALERT!

3 posted on 06/01/2004 10:38:33 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Kerry is a major dork))
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To: ijcr
>> in the great crap-shoot of economic life in America

Free markets are not arbitrary. Economics is not a "crap shoot." The laws of economics function more surely than any written by a legislature.

Let us not forget that Howell Raines is a disgraced former editor who got fired for being unable to detect fraud under his nose -- that is, he was unable to distinguish between reality and fantasy. He obviously is just as clueless about economics.

4 posted on 06/01/2004 10:41:42 PM PDT by T'wit (Kerry is such a gold-digger that nowadays he puts his peanut butter and jelly on puff pastry.)
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Raines is the typical liberal Southerner gobe north. Hre refuses to see that the Democratic Party represents not the people but the northeastern elite who hate Bush because he consciously chose not to be one of them. In other words, they regard him a traitor to his class.


5 posted on 06/01/2004 10:42:10 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: DallasMike
Kerry the first war-hero candidate since Kennedy?

Your Number two is it in a nutshell.

Non-dem candidates don't even register as human beings much less people who have service records to these leftist media elites.

People like Rosie O'Donnel and Howl Reigns brothers in spirit would call Dole or Bush fascists or Nazis.

But Dole and Bush were the people who literally fought and defeated the Nazis and fascists.

The depravity of these media.

6 posted on 06/01/2004 10:42:38 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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What an enlightening glimpse into the dark mind of a condescending, prevaricating elitist...


7 posted on 06/01/2004 10:43:18 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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Advice from the guy who thought it was a good idea to hire Jayson Blair, promote him way beyond his level of competence, shield him and keep him on -- and wound up getting canned for his good idea.


8 posted on 06/01/2004 10:48:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: DallasMike
What the hell were George Bush and Bob Dole? Chopped liver?

For that matter, what about George McGovern?

Raines' fact-checking appears consistent with The Old Gray Whore's standards...

9 posted on 06/01/2004 10:55:06 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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The main point here is Raines' cynical endorsement
of "disinformation" as a Kerry strategy and "greed"
as a Kerry theme. The baldfaced arrogance is amazing.
It shows what Mr. Raines really thinks of the American
people.


11 posted on 06/01/2004 11:13:05 PM PDT by California Patriot (California Patriot)
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This was my favorite quote:

"As matters now stand, Kerry has assured the DLC, "I am not a redistributionist Democrat."

That's actually a good start. Using that promise as disinformation, he must now figure out a creative way to become a redistributionist Democrat."

Raines' blithe attitude toward lying in order to take the public's money is downright scary...

It also creeped me out that he is so filled with venom that he is able to state that Kerry is the first war hero candidate since Kennedy; I can only think his hatred has blinded him from remembering the names Bush (#41) and Dole.


12 posted on 06/01/2004 11:46:59 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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That's it - clueless - that's what the whole article is - clueless. To even say the WH is planning to leave Iraq in 30 days no matter what chaos ensues .. totally contradicts what Bush said in his press conference today.

Hmmmm? Maybe the guy's on another planet.


13 posted on 06/01/2004 11:47:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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Howell Raines is a morally bankrupt, lying sack of snit.


14 posted on 06/01/2004 11:50:48 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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McGovern flew 35 combat missions as a B-24 bomber pilot in Europe, earning the Distinguished Flying Cross.,,, I guess this doesn't match the trials and tribulations of a great war hero like John Fing Kerry,,


15 posted on 06/02/2004 12:01:09 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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On his Boston Whaler,,, LMAO


16 posted on 06/02/2004 12:03:11 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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Basically, the whole subtext of this piece is that Kerry is a friggin' idiot. Raines implies over and over that Kerry can't ever make a right decision on his own or know the right thing to say without being scripted - that someone else has to think for Kerry.

Examples of this are everywhere in this piece. In the last paragraph, for example, Raines implies that "Someone (beside Kerry) in Kerry's campaign can figure out a way for him (to be trained like a poodle) to say, "Here's my plan (although I didn't think of it) for getting us out of Iraq and defeating terrorism," and "Here's my plan ( they told me to say ) for making sure you're not sick and poor in your old age." And then make him say it ( even if Kerry doesn't want to say it or understand it, as his handler you should MAKE HIM SAY IT ) over and over again, no matter what question is asked of him. Kerry has to face the fact ... (President Bush) going to win unless Kerry comes up with something to say (which obviously Kerry lacks the ability to do ). To stay "on message", you have to have one, (and Kerry doesn't have a message of his own )."

I think Raines is fundamentally correct in his assessment of Kerry's innate ability. I bet someone else in Kerry's campaign had to figure out for Kerry that not accepting the nomination in Boston was a dumb idea.

17 posted on 06/02/2004 12:06:32 AM PDT by dano1
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When journalists start to tell a candidate how to run his campaign, you know he's in BIG trouble.

On the other hand, its Bush bashing statements make it a bit of a hit piece.

However, the journalist did get one thing right, he, too, thinks Kerry looks like Lurch.

The TV camera is an x-ray for picking up attitudinal truths, and Kerry's lantern jaw and Addams Family face

18 posted on 06/02/2004 12:18:15 AM PDT by dawn53
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but anyone tempted to bet against him would be ignoring the Republican party's mastery of what the pundits call "hammer-and-chisel politics".......

Number of results for "hammer-and-chisel politics" on Google: 0

19 posted on 06/02/2004 12:23:32 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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Howell Raines is a morally bankrupt, lying sack of snit.

See my post 19. He made up a "pundits' term" that doesn't exist.

20 posted on 06/02/2004 12:24:51 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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