17th Century Solar Oddity Believed Linked To Global Cooling Is Rare Among Nearby Stars

Science Daily ^ | 6-3-2004 | UC Berkeley

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Data from the last decades has been an eye opener.
The Sun has expelled massive Plasma bursts....and these have occured at *non peak Sunspot cycles...with mass volume exceeeding CME's at peak Sun Spot Cycles.

THE SUN – Our Variable Star

Squashed Star Flattens Solar Theory

The idea that the Sun is behaving unusually is based on an assumption about what is normal for stars like the Sun. We are told that such stars are self-consuming thermonuclear engines that have sufficient fuel (hydrogen) to maintain a steady output for millions or billions of years. However, while the Sun’s visible light output varies by only tenths of a percent, its energy in UV and X-rays varies by a factor of 20!

Sunspot Mysteries

[BenLurkin]

Kinda makes the whole Kyoto Treaty "controversy" look ridiculous if you ask me.

[Arthur McGowan]

Not at all. We just have to start pressuring the people on the Sun to sign up.

[Marauder]

I agree. Let's send Ted Kennedy up there with a petition; tell him that he can work at night to avoid the heat.

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...Just Beat Them!

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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith

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[BenLurkin]

“We thought we knew how to detect Maunder minimum stars, but we don’t,”

Which is why I made sure my kids understood from an early age that “Science is always wrong.” They come out with theories which they will present as though dispositive....but you can always expect another theory coming along that claims that IT is dispositive, and the previous theory (previously accepted as dispositive) was wrong.

[bert]

———an assumption about what is normal-——

That is great phrase. “An assumption about what is normal”

A better assumption is there is no normal. There is no steady state. What was will not be what is.

There is no normal

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Ok, it’s rare, say scientists who’ve been denying since the mid ‘70s that the sun has anything to do with Earths weather while they shut out the old guard and the new guard perpetrated the “Global Warming” hoax on the world.

If they lost he ability years ago to study our closest star, pardon me for doubting their findings when they study a further star. It’s probably common.

[MortMan]

So their *IS* a link between solar activity and Earth climate?

Somebody tell Michael Mann and company...

[MortMan]

The only constant is change. ;-P

(Constants aren’t and variables don’t! - The computer programming corollary)

[TXnMA]

“Science is always wrong.”

Dumb@$$3d statement of the century!

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A far more accurate statement would be:

Science is always seeking more accurate information and a better explanation -- and doesn't fear to admit that prior data or explanations were wrong or less accurate."

Only ignorant dogmatists who claim they hold "THE TRUTH" fear being wrong or require "PROOF".

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

Truly, the word "proof" applies in Mathematics not Science.

Science uses the word "theory" suggesting future investigations and resulting theories may supplant, modify or extend present theories - e.g. Newtonian physics, Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. The confidence we may have in a theory is directly tied to its surviving repeated attempts to falsify it (Popper et al.)

Indeed, the phrase "law" is rarely used in Science, e.g. the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Moreover, the search for "truth" is the domain of Theology/Philosophy not Science.

Problems arise when scientists do politics or theology under the color of Science, e.g. Dawkins, Singer, Pinker, Lewontin. But we should not assume that because some do this that they all do this.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Oh , this is good stuff.

Thanks for reposting it.

Iime to see what WUWT has.