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Stone Age Elephant Remains Found (England, Slain By Humans)
BBC ^ | 6-21-2004

Posted on 06/21/2004 5:37:15 PM PDT by blam

Stone Age elephant remains found

The skeleton was found at the site of a new station

Construction work on the Channel Tunnel Rail Link (CTRL) in Kent has unearthed the 400,000-year-old remains of an elephant. The skeleton was found on the site of the new Ebbsfleet station, an area thought to be an early Stone Age site.

Bones from other large animals, including rhinoceros, buffalo and wild horses, have also been found nearby.

The remains were preserved in muddy sediment near what was once the edge of a small lake, a spokesman said.

The elephant, which has been identified as a straight-tusked Palaeoloxodon antiquus, would have been twice the size of the largest modern African elephant.

The skeleton was also found with a number of flint tools surrounding it, indicating that it was probably slaughtered by humans.

Flint tools

Dr Francis Wenban-Smith of the University of Southampton, who made the discovery, said: "Only a handful of other elephant remains have been found in Britain and none of these give any indication of human exploitation.

"It is hard to imagine early humans successfully hunting a healthy specimen, but if it was already trapped in the bog, it could have been killed by early humans with wooden spears and then butchered for its meat with flint tools."

We thought we had found everything but it seems the best has been saved for last

Helen Glass

The archaeological investigation is being carried out by Oxford Archaeology, on behalf of CTRL project managers Rail Link Engineering (RLE) and its client Union Railways.

Helen Glass of RLE said: "During pre-construction investigations across the Ebbsfleet Valley we found an Anglo-Saxon mill, as well as the remains of a Roman town and villa complex.

"We thought we had found everything, but it seems the best has been saved for last."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: age; britishisles; cryptozoology; dietandcuisine; doggerland; elephant; found; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; homoheidelbergensis; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; palaeoloxodon; remains; stone; stoneage; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 06/21/2004 5:37:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: farmfriend

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 5:38:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I hope PETA doesn't get wind of this.


3 posted on 06/21/2004 5:41:36 PM PDT by xrp
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To: blam
PETA to protest animal cruelty and lack of headstone on grave.

So9

4 posted on 06/21/2004 5:42:12 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: blam
Would have been hominids, probably Neanderthal, not humans.

Homo sapiens are not older than 150,000 years.

5 posted on 06/21/2004 5:45:13 PM PDT by motife
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To: blam
Damn, do I see a future in the meat department?
6 posted on 06/21/2004 5:46:47 PM PDT by #1CTYankee
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To: blam

400,000 years. The last wooly mammoth died 4000 years ago although there were reports of wooly mammoths in Canada 400 years ago. Mammoth bones are found here at gold mines.


7 posted on 06/21/2004 5:48:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: motife
Homo sapiens are not older than 150,000 years.

Wouldn't this shoot down "Out of Africa"?

8 posted on 06/21/2004 5:52:55 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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9 posted on 06/21/2004 6:02:09 PM PDT by BushMeister
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To: blam; Victoria Delsoul; PatrickHenry; Quila; Rudder; donh; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; ...

Palaeoloxodon ping


10 posted on 06/21/2004 6:04:02 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammedanism is an evil empire.)
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To: Mike Darancette
No. Best evidence is the very close DNA relationship of chimpanzees, gorilla and the bonobos of Africa. Vs. the far more distant relation to the orangutan of Indonesia.

Non-knuckle walkers came out of Africa.

What is very mysterious is the many species of hominids found everywhere but in North or South America. Was there simultaneous development in many locations?

Neither science nor religion will ever fathom it. It's unknowable. The development of species seems to ANTICIPATE survival development, not use "natural selection". Uncanny.

"Do not ask from where the flowers come. The god of spring himself does not know the answer."

11 posted on 06/21/2004 6:04:08 PM PDT by motife
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To: motife
"Would have been hominids, probably Neanderthal, not humans. "

Isn't that a little early for Neanderthal?
300,000 BC is usually the earliest date shown on timelines for them.

(On the other hand, 400,000 BC...probably some use of fire in limited areas.)
12 posted on 06/21/2004 6:04:40 PM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: blam

Slain by humans? Surely this is the fault of that warmonger Bush. /sarcasm


13 posted on 06/21/2004 6:05:03 PM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: motife
You mean homo sapiens are believed by many scientists to have not been around longer ago than 150,000 years, right?
14 posted on 06/21/2004 6:05:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: blam

Elephants and rhinos in England. Rather warm wasn't it and carbon dioxide was much lower.

So warmer climate with less CO2 compared to colder climate and more CO2 today. Not much correlation is there?


16 posted on 06/21/2004 6:07:08 PM PDT by Number_Cruncher
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To: #1CTYankee

Reminds of the tourist in Africa who came upon a pygmy next to a dead elephant.

"Did you kill this elephant?" she asked.

"Sure did", said the pygmy, "With my club."

"A club!", the tourist exclaimed, "Just how big IS your club?"

"Oh we have about sixty members."


17 posted on 06/21/2004 6:07:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (I remember.)
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To: blam

Stone Age elephant remains found.

Is Fransico Franco still dead?


18 posted on 06/21/2004 6:08:32 PM PDT by Kaisersrsic
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To: Anoreth

paleontology


19 posted on 06/21/2004 6:10:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (A rifle without ammunition is just a stick.)
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To: Sabertooth; blam
..... Slain By Humans

The beginnings of Global Warming. :^O

hehe!


20 posted on 06/21/2004 6:15:00 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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