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Oklahama governor signs HB2122: Employers can't ban guns in vehicles
Oklahoma Legislature ^ | July 17, 2004 | n/a

Posted on 07/17/2004 2:23:08 PM PDT by Mulder

Here is part of the bill that Governor Henry signed:

"No person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business entity shall be permitted to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person, except a convicted felon, from transporting and storing firearms in a locked vehicle on any property set aside for any vehicle."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; ccw; rkba
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1 posted on 07/17/2004 2:23:10 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: *bang_list

Great news for gunowners in Oklahoma


2 posted on 07/17/2004 2:25:44 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: Mulder

Why is legislation required to protect a person's freedom in this matter??


3 posted on 07/17/2004 2:29:47 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Mulder

Well, yeah. Can you link to the text of said bill?


4 posted on 07/17/2004 2:32:29 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Ken522
Why is legislation required to protect a person's freedom in this matter??

Because many employers have a "no guns" policy that infringes upon the Right of their employees to self-defense.

5 posted on 07/17/2004 2:32:51 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder; *bang_list

HUA !


6 posted on 07/17/2004 2:34:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: annyokie
Can you link to the text of said bill?

My browser couldn't display the search engine that the Oklahoma legislature has on their website. Maybe someone else will have better luck, and can post the text:

http://www4.lsb.state.ok.us/Scripts/BtLoadFrame.asp?Applet=BtStatus

7 posted on 07/17/2004 2:36:16 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder

"No person, property owner, tenant, employer, or business entity shall be permitted to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person, except a convicted felon, from transporting and storing firearms in a locked vehicle on any property set aside for any vehicle."

...or we'll kill you.

An armed society is a polite society.


8 posted on 07/17/2004 2:38:00 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Hanoi John - Hanoi John - The Benedict Arnold of Vietnam)
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To: Mulder; PhiKapMom

I looked and there is no way (big surprise) to search the actual bill and its language.

They don't list bills by their number.

I'll ask the big gun.


9 posted on 07/17/2004 2:38:49 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: Mulder
Could you give us a bill number or a link to the specific piece of legislation as the article link is to the general legislative webpage that can go anywhere.

I am not sure how long that law is going to last and I would bet it is not as broad as your quote implies.

The work I do has taken me inside oil refineries, power plants, nuclear power plants, state prisons (corrections centers), DSHS non-voluntary comitment centers (aka mental health hospitals & juvinile detention schools), and other secured facilties.

As a RTKBA supporter, I can understand doing away with a Catch-22 that doesn't allow one to go to work and park one's car and then leave a firearm securly locked up if you are not allowed (assuming you have a CPL or CWP) to bring a firearm into the place.

On the otherhand, even the most low security of these kinds of places I go to require one to surrender any weapons for locked storage with their security forces. They would never stand for a firearm brought onto the property or even locked in a care on the property where someone might break into it.

Something doesen't sound right.

10 posted on 07/17/2004 2:40:18 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Mulder
Because many employers have a "no guns" policy that infringes upon the Right of their employees to self-defense.

And in most cases, the no-guns policy is required by the employer's scumsucking insurance company. The employer has no choice in the matter.

11 posted on 07/17/2004 2:43:17 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Lexington Green
An armed society is a polite society

Not in this case:

Saturday, July 17, 2004
Dog Chase Ends With Gun Death
By Michael Davis, Journal Staff Writer
A pistol-packing mountain biker killed a Cochiti-area man Thursday— after, he said, the man threatened him with a handgun— near Cochiti Lake, State Police said.
The victim, Scott Massey, died of multiple gunshot wounds, State Police spokesman Lt. Jimmy Glascock said. The name of the mountain biker, a 39-year-old Albuquerque firefighter, according to Glascock, was not released Friday. The cyclist told police the altercation occurred after he was chased by the victim's dogs and he fired a shot to scare them away. Officers responded to the shooting about 6:40 p.m. in Cochiti Canyon, near the Dixon Apple Orchard past Cochiti Lake.
According to Glascock:
The cyclist was pedaling his mountain bike on Tent Rocks Road toward the lake when he was chased by two dogs. The cyclist drew his pistol and fired a shot into the ground to scare the dogs off, and they ran away unharmed. "He didn't shoot the dogs," Glascock said.
The cyclist said he heard someone shouting but kept pedaling. He told police that, a mile or two later, Massey raced up behind him in a Toyota pickup. The biker said he got off the road and his bicycle. Massey owned the dogs, Glascock said, and the cyclist told police Massey was extremely angry and verbally abusive. The mountain biker said that he tried to leave but that the dog owner cut him off and brandished a handgun. "At that point, the cyclist shot the victim multiple times," Glascock said.
The cyclist then called 911 and remained at the scene until police arrived. "We questioned and detained the cyclist for the investigation and then released him," Glascock said. Glascock said officers recovered two handguns at the scene, one belonging to each man. Police investigators have conferred with the Sandoval County District Attorney's Office and no charges have been filed at this time, Glascock said. The investigation is ongoing.
Copyright 2004 Albuquerque Journal

12 posted on 07/17/2004 2:47:01 PM PDT by CedarDave ("Top Secret": Classification used by the media to prevent delivery of positive news on Bush or Iraq)
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To: Robert357
It's HB2122. See #7 for the link to the OK legislature. I (and others) are having a hard time finding it there due to their unfriendly website. This was posted over at packing.org, and I believe it to be legit, although like you said it might not be as broad as the part I quoted.

The work I do has taken me inside oil refineries, power plants, nuclear power plants

I would hope that people that are trusted enough to work at these places are armed to the teeth.

They would never stand for a firearm brought onto the property or even locked in a care on the property where someone might break into it.

That's because most of what passes as "security" at these places are just lawyers trying to cover their butts in case something does happen.

Banning the good guys from having guns isn't going to prevent anything, as 9/11 proved.

As for "no gun" policies, I find it laughable that they'll let folks drive in with a 4000 pound vehicle containing 20 gallons of a flammable material, but won't let folks in with a 9mm pistol.

"Security" needs to be focused on keeping out the people that don't belong there, not harassing employees under the guise of "making things safer".

13 posted on 07/17/2004 2:49:12 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: CedarDave
Not in this case:

Everything I've read about that case appears to support the fact that it was a "clean shoot".

14 posted on 07/17/2004 2:50:55 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder
" Because many employers have a "no guns" policy that infringes upon the Right of their employees to self-defense."

As does mine.

This policy in essence means, I must travel all the way to work, and all the way home (and whatever stops I wish to make in between) without the benefit of self protection.

We need a law like this in S.C. I believe.

Til then the "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" logic will be in effect.
15 posted on 07/17/2004 2:59:55 PM PDT by BattleFlag
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To: Mulder
http://www2.lsb.state.ok.us/2003-04HB/hb2122_enr.rtf
16 posted on 07/17/2004 3:00:30 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: BattleFlag
This policy in essence means, I must travel all the way to work, and all the way home (and whatever stops I wish to make in between) without the benefit of self protection

One thing you can do is simply refuse to allow them to search your vehicle.

If you think there is a possiblity they will search, get a lockbox that you can bolt down to your vehicle, and keep your weapon in there. And if they ask to open it, tell them you "forgot" the key.

We need a law like this in S.C. I believe.

South Carolina probably has the worst gun laws of any state in the south. But now that they have a good conservative for governor, that should change. They definately need to make drastic improvements to their CCW law, and this would be a great starting point.

17 posted on 07/17/2004 3:06:08 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: BattleFlag
" Til then the "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" logic will be in effect."

Or more like "better to take a slight risk in loosing my job than needing the gat and not having it."

There, that's better.
18 posted on 07/17/2004 3:08:30 PM PDT by BattleFlag (What can you do with a wooden head?)
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To: Mulder
And if they ask to open it, tell them you "forgot" the key.

I don't believe in keyed padlocks. All of mine are combination locks. You have the right (and power) to remain silent....

/john

19 posted on 07/17/2004 3:12:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (But what do I know, I'm just a cook. No disguta conmigo!)
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To: All

I wish TN would adopt that law. I travel alone 36 miles a day up and down I-75 to work and would feel much safer with my handgun on board. It's such a hassle to remember to take it out and put it back in that I seldom carry it anymore unless I'm out alone at night.


20 posted on 07/17/2004 3:14:47 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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