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I only gets worse. I must have ran into 25 invaders today. Protected by both parties.
1 posted on 08/29/2004 2:55:27 PM PDT by Afronaut
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To: Afronaut

Good. Then vote for Kerry. I'm sure your life will be much better.

This is a crap post.


2 posted on 08/29/2004 2:58:51 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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I agree with Michelle Malkin on this issue, not the president. He is more concerned with getting elected and taking this issue off the table, rather then the conservative point of view.


3 posted on 08/29/2004 2:59:07 PM PDT by tioga (Flush the johns in '04!)
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I'm not sure where I stand with this. I sort of agree that if there are illegals here that are working, then why not give them a chance to become legal? Then again, does that punish those that follow the steps the right way? This amnesty is only for those that are currently working. I know the office where I work is cleaned by Mexicans every night. No one else wants to do that work. I assume that these guys are documented, but they are here to work and perform a service, why not let them become citizens. Only the ones that are employed of course.


4 posted on 08/29/2004 3:00:39 PM PDT by MaineRepublic
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I'm sure John Kerry will appreciate your vote.
5 posted on 08/29/2004 3:00:54 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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Kerry would do the same, so i would suggest you hedge your vote on other issues like, partial birth abortion, gay marriage, "under god" the in the pledge, and the general strength of our military


6 posted on 08/29/2004 3:02:34 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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Moby to the rescue! lol


7 posted on 08/29/2004 3:03:22 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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Let's see here....to get your policies enacted, you have to be in power....to not take an issue away from your opponent is foolhardy and definitely not a way to get elected. He is kind of damned if he does and damned if he doesnt.

But go ahead and vote for Kerry or not vote for Bush...it sounds like your life would be happier....


8 posted on 08/29/2004 3:03:51 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
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I think Paul Moonshine needs to take the pledge. Or get a really big grip on himself. Nobody agrees with somebody 100% of the time unless they are unbalanced liberal Rats that see the Savior in JFK. Chill out dude.
9 posted on 08/29/2004 3:03:56 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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I must admit that this is not one of Bush's strong points.

If it weren't for the War on Terror a lot of Pubbies would stay home over this.

GOP, please note for 2006 and 2008.

Meanwhile, W had better pray (a lot), because if someone gets through the Mexican border and pulls off a successful terrorist attack, this election will be up for grabs, Kerry's wartime warts and all.


12 posted on 08/29/2004 3:05:00 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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Then vote for Kerry. I hope your conscience is eased with your higher taxes and bloated inflation. But hey, at least the BROWN people wont be cutting your lawn anymore.


13 posted on 08/29/2004 3:05:27 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
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Life is imperfect. There are tons of things that I don't like about "Bush's policies." But he is not a liar, as Kerry is. He is not a socialist, as Kerry is.


14 posted on 08/29/2004 3:06:02 PM PDT by Cboldt
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>>>Bush is for it. That makes him a liberal.

So you'll be voting for who? John Kerry?

The big issue and the primary focus in this election is the War on Terror and how best to advance a military strategy for winning it. Other issues are important, but this is the #1 issue. Period!

18 posted on 08/29/2004 3:09:53 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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This is crap! C\Karl Rove got a taste of how popular it was from Britt Hume when interviewed. It aint gonna happen!


19 posted on 08/29/2004 3:10:44 PM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry is a Vietnam Traitor)
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Nobody EVER said George W. Bush was a rock-ribbed, mossback hardshell conservative. He looks for the most doable compromise in terms of getting legislation passed if it is not something he has a strong and enduring principle about. That is just good stewardship, in his view. But on things that strike at core moral beliefs, those he will go to the mat for.

It is not a bad thing, necessarily, that persons enter this country and take the scut work jobs that have to be done, but for which nobody is willing to pay a whole lot. Or the work could be left undone. The situation now is that these same people are under a lot of threatening shadows on their lives and subject to suffering exposure now, which in fact probably is much less bad than they have been told.

They come, because they know a job will be there for them, they have learned in the barrio grapevine. There is an unpublished demand for their labor, and while some lawbreakers and scofflaws do manage to slip in, the vast majority are calm and unlikely to cause trouble. Difficulty is, the troublemaker and the honest hard worker look almost exactly alike on first impression. That is why we would kind of like to see them screened a little at the border BEFORE they enter.


21 posted on 08/29/2004 3:13:24 PM PDT by alloysteel
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Who'd a thunk it...... dissention within the ranks.... right wingers mad at the left wingers in the party.... Moderates in the middle..... sheesh.

A little from Bobby Eberle

However, other conservatives such as Richard Lessner, the Executive Director of the American Conservative Union, see the new GOP platform as short on core conservative principles. Lessner, in an e-mail to conservative activists, describes the platform as not a "pretty picture."

"You have to give the Bush political operation credit: they badly outflanked the party conservatives," Lessner wrote. "By the time delegates gathered here in New York for the platform committee work, the game was already over. The Bush operation made certain that the committee, selected by state parties, was packed with loyalists. Any chance of a conservative uprising over the platform was DOA."

Lessner said that the most controversial plank in the draft platform was on immigration, "specifically President Bush's proposal for a guest worker program for illegal aliens, a plan that also would put those who entered America unlawfully on the path to U.S. citizenship."

"This idea is wildly unpopular with grassroots Republicans and the Bush people know it," Lessner wrote. "So the fix was in. Any effort by the handful of conservatives on the rubber-stamp platform committee to amend or delete the offending plank on immigration were trumped by a series of strong-arm tactics and procedural maneuverings."

Lessner added, "Not that the bullying tactics mattered much. The platform delegates comported themselves like a flock of obedient sheep. Taking their cues from committee co-chairmen Sen. Bill Frist and Colorado Gov. Bill Owens, delegates even rejected amendments drawn word-for-word from the 2000 GOP platform."

Lessner conceded that "there is much in the platform to please conservatives," but added that there is "also plenty to infuriate."


23 posted on 08/29/2004 3:13:53 PM PDT by deport (In politics, as in fishing, you don't have to be a genius. You just have to be smarter than the fish)
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"If there are any deluded souls out there who still believe George W. Bush is a conservative, I invite them to examine the 2004 Republican Party platform on the issue of amnesty for illegal immigrants."

Bush's immigration plan offers bait for every currently-anonymous illegal alien to come in from the cold and *register* with the federal government, as well as registering their home, their U.S. employer, and their family. If you've ever been remotely involved with law enforcement, you know two things about registration:

1. It is easier to ban something (such as guns) once it is registered, and
2. It takes fewer LEO resources to track down someone who is known versus someone who is anonymous. In a time when we have over 8 million anonymous illegals, those resources matter.

After registering with the federal government, Bush's plan forces each illegal alien to pay a fine for being here illegally.

One could consider it to be a giant plea bargain.

In return for registering and paying that fine, they get new blue cards. The blue cards allow them to remain in the U.S. for three years, legally, so long as they remain employed, pay taxes, and stay out of any legal trouble.

To get a renewed blue card after 3 years, they have to return to their home countries in order to apply. This sends millions back to their home countries voluntarily, preventing the need to have a forced military round up larger than the one last seen in Europe from 1937 to 1945 (6 million +).

Frankly, I've heard of worse plans. It's a plea bargain, not an amnesty (you don't pay fines for amnesties), and it gets anonymous illegals registered, as well as gives them incentives to finally stay out of trouble with the law.

So this plan doesn't have me flailing my arms over my head while screaming that the sky is falling.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

42 posted on 08/29/2004 3:34:13 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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What good would it do Bush or the Republicans to take as hard of a line as we and probably they would like? A hard line platform would certainly make us feel better right up to Nov. 2.

Bush/GOP have many of the finest minds in the world working to get elected. Stats that we can't imagine. Seeing how the last election was won by less than 600 votes, I'd say the GOP is doing a pretty good job of walking the line between issues and electability, although I would have conceded another issue in the last election for a more comfortable win.
46 posted on 08/29/2004 3:37:38 PM PDT by ohCompGk
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WHAT DO YOU THINK Ter-AH-zah WILL DO?
SHE WILL BRING ALL THE RADICALS AND INVETE THEM TO HER BED WITH KERRY. THE WILL ALL BE IN BED.

THE RADICALS WHAT OPEN BORDERS....
GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR Ter-AH-zah, SHE IS THE ONE WITH THE MONEY AND JOHNY IS JUST HER PUPPET.


56 posted on 08/29/2004 3:44:43 PM PDT by crushelits
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So he is not only a liberal, but a liar as well.

Hey! Just like Kerry!

69 posted on 08/29/2004 3:54:34 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really.)
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You mean you had doubts that Bush is was an open border republicrat?


73 posted on 08/29/2004 3:58:05 PM PDT by Netizen
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