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CBS backs off Guard story (Burkett now maintains source was Lucy Ramirez. LOL)

Posted on 09/20/2004 10:25:03 PM PDT by Bushruffneck

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20040921/1a_cover21x.art0.htm

USA Today Exclusive with Burkett

It is the funniest thing I have ever read. This guy is fregan nuts.


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1 posted on 09/20/2004 10:25:04 PM PDT by Bushruffneck
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To: Bushruffneck
USA Today
2 posted on 09/20/2004 10:26:44 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Bushruffneck

The requested document was not found.


3 posted on 09/20/2004 10:26:56 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Bushruffneck
BTT

It is the funniest thing I have ever read. This guy is fregan nuts.


Remember Rush pointing to everything aims at Travis County Texas? Austin is in Travis County. Robin is in Austin. Rather (Dan) got caught at a Democratic fund raiser there for/with his daughter Robin. Instinct tells me she is the source & main culprit here and Dan Rather is trying to protect his daughter!


Try Robin Rather!

This is from a message board.

4 posted on 09/20/2004 10:27:14 PM PDT by B-Cause (Kuck Ferry)
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To: Bushruffneck
Who's Lucy Ramirez?

Are you sure he doesn't mean Lucy Ricardo?

5 posted on 09/20/2004 10:27:26 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: counterpunch
Max Cleland's schedule on August 25 in Texas needs to be fully examined. Cleland tried to deliver a letter to President Bush around 1pm in Crawford, followed immediately by a short press conference. When did he leave Texas, where did he leave from, and what did he do in the time in between?

Only days prior to Cleland's impromptu visit to Texas, he began discussions with Bill Burkett, who is now known to be CBS's source for the forged documents.

Later the same day of Cleland's Texas trip, Burkett announced in a rant to President Bush on the progressive onlinejournal that, "I know from your files that we have now reassembled, the fact that you did not fulfill your oath, taken when you were commissioned to 'obey the orders of the officers appointed over you'."

What time was this rant posted?
Did Cleland help him write it?
Who is the "we" Burkett is referring to concerning the documents being "reassembled"?
Did Cleland help Burkett forge the documents on that day?

Crawford, Texas, where Cleland was at 1pm on August 25, is only 162 miles from Baird, Bill Burkett's home.

Did Cleland make a visit there that day?

Did someone in the Kerry campaign act as a middleman in passing along the information to CBS that Burkett had these documents?

Did someone in the Kerry campaign lobby CBS to use these documents or vouch for their authenticity?

CBS claimed that these documents came from "unimpeachable sources."
Other than Burkett, who are the other sources?
Why did CBS consider Burkett "unimpeachable"?
Was the journalistic fraud perpetrated by CBS so deep and corrupt that they actually relied on the sole testimony of a documented crazy person who had already been discredited on kook conspiracy theories involving Bush?
Or is it more reasonable to assume that CBS News would not put their credibility and even their careers on the line unless there was someone like Cleland or Barnes vouching for the documents as well who CBS is now protecting?

CBS must answer the question of how they learned that Burkett now had these memos. Did the discovery of these new documents play a part in Ben Barnes decision that he was now ready to talk to 60 Minutes on air, after Mary Mapes had long been urging him to do so? Is there a connection between this sudden change of heart by Barnes just two days before CBS hit "paydirt" with these forged documents?
Did Ben Barnes see these documents even before CBS did?

Here is some insight into the question:

Rumors about the memos had circulated in the Democratic Party and media circles for weeks; in fact, CBS had used their existence to help persuade Barnes to talk. He told Democratic friends before the "60 Minutes II" broadcast that if documents the network was hunting for were found—and were authentic—"the election is over."

But now we learn that Barnes decided to talk to CBS just a few days before CBS received the documents:

During the Republican National Convention in New York, Rather got a call from Ben Barnes, a onetime Texas lieutenant governor and veteran Democrat who has known the anchor, a former Houston TV reporter, for 30 years. Barnes said he was ready to say before the cameras that he had pulled strings to get Bush a coveted slot in the Texas Guard in 1968. Mapes had long been urging Barnes to tell his story.

On Friday, Sept. 3, the day after the convention ended, Mapes hit pay dirt. She told Howard her source had given her the documents.


This would mean that the Kerry campaign -- which Barnes is co-chair of -- got the documents first, then CBS received them a few days later.
6 posted on 09/20/2004 10:27:32 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Bushruffneck
Looooceeeee! You got some 'splainin' to do...
7 posted on 09/20/2004 10:27:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bushruffneck

Did you check out posting guidelines, by any chance?


8 posted on 09/20/2004 10:28:13 PM PDT by Judith Anne (First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajama pundits, now we're the piranha of the internet)
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To: B-Cause
Now stop posting that!
That is NOT Dan Rather's daughter.
That is an old picture of Dan himself in the '60s, tripping on LSD.
9 posted on 09/20/2004 10:28:54 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Bushruffneck

Who's Lucy Ramirez?


10 posted on 09/20/2004 10:29:28 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Bushruffneck

Who is Lucy Ramirez?


11 posted on 09/20/2004 10:29:46 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: faithincowboys

Time for some investigative work from the pajama posse.


12 posted on 09/20/2004 10:30:34 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: B-Cause

You mean th DIKE...Robin?


13 posted on 09/20/2004 10:30:36 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Bushruffneck

Who is Lucy Ramirez?


14 posted on 09/20/2004 10:30:41 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Bushruffneck

WHO IS LUCY RAMIREZ?

Sorry to shout, but we need to know!


15 posted on 09/20/2004 10:30:59 PM PDT by Calico Cat (the simplest solution is usually the correct one)
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To: B-Cause

Yum,Theres some good eaten.


16 posted on 09/20/2004 10:31:59 PM PDT by Boazo
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To: Bushruffneck

Idiots at USAToday used Burkett twice before on stories!

"Burkett had twice before been an on-the-record source for USA TODAY stories: a Dec. 18, 2001, story on inflated troop counts in the Guard nationwide — so-called ghost soldiers — and a Feb. 12 story this year in which Burkett recounted what he said were efforts by top Texas Guard officials to “cleanse” Bush's military record of embarrassing information in the summer of 1997."


17 posted on 09/20/2004 10:32:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Bushruffneck; All

Who in the Hell is Lucy Ramirez?


18 posted on 09/20/2004 10:32:09 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Calico Cat

She is the chick Burkett tell USA today that gave him the Docs.


19 posted on 09/20/2004 10:32:32 PM PDT by Bushruffneck
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

yup...


20 posted on 09/20/2004 10:33:06 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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