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A MS. MAPES MYSTERY (CBS' 60 Minutes Democrat connection)
NY POST ^ | 9/22/04 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 09/22/2004 3:11:11 AM PDT by Liz

As we asked yesterday: What did Dan Rather know?

And when did he know it?

And that was even before it was disclosed that CBS News' dubious source for those phony National Guard memos insisted on being put in touch directly with John Kerry's campaign — apparently as a condition for turning over the documents.

As USA Today reported in detail yesterday, CBS producer Mary Mapes arranged for Bill Burkett (who provided the forged documents) to speak with Joe Lockhart, the former Clinton press secretary who's now a top Kerry campaign adviser.

CBS claims hooking Burkett up with Lockhart "was not part of any deal" to get the memos, which producer Mapes had spent five fruitless years in search of.

Burkett, however, insists that the contact was indeed part of an "understanding" — without which he would not turn over the documents.

At this point, neither Burkett nor the network have much standing in the credibility department.

But even taking the network's claim at face value undercuts Rather's claim that using the documents — which he now says he regrets — was "an error that was made . . . in good faith."

Not to mention his insistence that this story was part of the "CBS News tradition of investigate reporting without fear or favoritism."

Simple common sense would have mandated that — faced with a demand by their source to involve the Kerry campaign — Rather and Mapes say flatly, "No way."

But they were so eager to get their hands on what they believed were explosive memos — supposedly proving once and for all that George W. Bush received special treatment in getting into the Air National Guard and then avoiding his full service obligation — that they agreed to anything Burkett wanted.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; marymapes; news; planetofthemapes; rathergate; stainedbluememo
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Burkett said he wanted to advise the Democrats on how to respond to the questions being raised about Kerry's own military record. To that end, he also was able to get former Sen. Max Cleland, a Kerry confidante, and ex-presidential candidate Howard Dean on the phone over the last 45 days.

How did he manage that?

And while Lockhart insists that the documents were never mentioned in their conversation, he conceded "it's possible" Mapes just happened to mention the memos when she asked him to give Burkett a call.

Yesterday, he explained it this way: Mapes asked Lockhart to speak to "a guy who is being helpful on this story," adding that she just happened to mention that "there are some records that might move the story forward" without telling him what they said.

Maybe CBS isn't the only one with a credibility problem.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 3:11:11 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave; Libloather; Mudboy Slim; onyx; Fracas
"The fact that CBS News would coordinate with the most senior levels of Sen. Kerry's campaign to attack the president is a stunning and deeply troubling revelation," said the White House. That's putting it mildly. Indeed, the more we learn about this whole sordid episode, the more disturbing it becomes. What else is CBS hiding?

If we could just start the CBS investigations from the lying Clintons 60 Minutes appearance, on down.

2 posted on 09/22/2004 3:13:37 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
"an error that was made . . . in good faith."

Right........ and Clinton didn't give away nuclear secrets to China, and Michael Moore is not fat.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 3:16:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: Liz
If we could just start the CBS investigations from the lying Clintons 60 Minutes appearance, on down.

Start from "The Wall Within". That was an evil disgrace by Rather and CBS.

ASA -- '69- '71.

4 posted on 09/22/2004 3:18:25 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: Liz
...and the hunter has shall become the hunted. Shhwweeet!
5 posted on 09/22/2004 3:23:12 AM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: Liz
and ex-presidential candidate Howard Dean on the phone over the last 45 days.

This is kerrite biggie number 3 to be put in contact with burkett by c-BS and RATher. Rathergate is bigger than Watergate.

6 posted on 09/22/2004 3:26:27 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Liz; CyberCowboy777; Baynative; Spanaway Lori; Grani

Just ask John Carlson of 570KVI radio in Settle. He worked with her and had a story on air today about HOW SHE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE! (But I wouldn't expect the mass media to actually be able to root this source out for themselves...)


7 posted on 09/22/2004 3:27:07 AM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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To: Liz

Poor ole Mary - only a few months removed from a career-defining highlight - the ALLEGED abuse of prisoners by American soldiers in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison - and unearthed the photos that gave the story its visceral impact. How do we know that those pictures weren't STAGED? I thought they looked to artsy not to be staged.

We know the C-BS memos were fake. We know members of the Kerry campaign were involved with Bill Burkett.

We know John Kerry re-enacted battles with his 8 milimeter camera while he was in Vietnam.

We know that there ARE people in this world who for political gain or money would discredit themselves, their President, and their country.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 3:30:05 AM PDT by xtinct (Incite into Massachusetts Politics)
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To: Liz
I have a noticed a sea change in the last few days. The media is starting to act more objectively and responsibly. USA Today did a very detailed (which is not normal for USA Today) and devastating story on the chronology of this scandal yesterday.

The MSM is now running scared that they will be sucked into this mess. They know they have bloody hands as well helping the Democrats and they are all in overdrive trying to see who can be tougher on CBS.

It won't last though. The only way to clean this up would be for the Washington Post, LA Times, Newsweek, Time, CNN, NYT, etc would be for them to fire 50% of the hard core liberals on their staff and start fresh.

9 posted on 09/22/2004 3:33:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: xtinct

It wouldn't surprise me to read CBS hired Michael Moore to stage those photos.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 3:33:36 AM PDT by John Thornton
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To: xtinct

What next, Mapes appearing on 60 MIN with panties over her head, accusing Rather of torture!


11 posted on 09/22/2004 3:36:33 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: SkyPilot

The leftist media wants to keep the spotlight on CBS so it doesn't shine any light on their own agenda driven news coverage.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 3:37:34 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Liz

I have a strong suspicion that whoever is behind the forgeries, is also the "unnamed sources" for most of the garbage in Kitty K's book.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 3:38:17 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Liz; headsonpikes; beyond the sea; E.G.C.; Military family member; Wolverine; TexasTransplant; ...
"CBS News tradition of investigate reporting without fear or favoritism."
It is time and past time for America to face up to the fact that the assumption that CBS, or anyone else for that matter, is wise and virtuous enough to " report without fear or favor" amounts to a "title of nobility" prohibited under the Constitution.
Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate
You and I listen to people because they vindicate your trust, not because the government says that they are "broadcasting in the public interest as a public trustee." But it is all too plain that at any given time there are all too many Americans who can be gulled by Public Relations swindles such as Dan Rather's posturing.

CBS has Swift Boat Veterans for Truth lined up around the block waiting to give firsthand testimony about John Kerry's behavior in Vietnam, and about the effect of his subsequent behavior on the troops then still there after he left. But Dan Rather would rather climb a tree to tell a lie about George W. Bush than he would to stand on the ground and tell the truth about John F. Kerry. "Without fear or favor?" Sure, I believe that!


14 posted on 09/22/2004 3:40:51 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: xtinct
We know the C-BS memos were fake. We know members of the Kerry campaign were involved with Bill Burkett.

We know John Kerry re-enacted battles with his 8 milimeter camera while he was in Vietnam.

We know that there ARE people in this world who for political gain or money would discredit themselves, their President, and their country.

Don't we also know that Cameron Kerry and Tom Vallely got caught in a political office burglary years back?

15 posted on 09/22/2004 3:48:10 AM PDT by pt17
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To: SkyPilot
>> The media is starting to act more objectively and responsibly.

I'd put it, "...destroying a competitor."

16 posted on 09/22/2004 3:48:33 AM PDT by T'wit (There is only one form of government -- too much)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Media bias bump.


17 posted on 09/22/2004 3:48:47 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: SkyPilot
>> The media is starting to act more objectively and responsibly.

I'd put it, "...destroying a competitor."

18 posted on 09/22/2004 3:49:15 AM PDT by T'wit (There is only one form of government -- too much)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
CBS has Swift Boat Veterans for Truth lined up around the block waiting to give firsthand testimony about John Kerry's behavior in Vietnam, and about the effect of his subsequent behavior on the troops then still there after he left. But Dan Rather would rather climb a tree to tell a lie about George W. Bush than he would to stand on the ground and tell the truth about John F. Kerry. "Without fear or favor?" Sure, I believe that!

Right, check out his 1988 "The Wall Within". Rather has been lying for decades, and helping to destroy the images of our good soldiers for those same decades.

19 posted on 09/22/2004 3:49:33 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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To: SkyPilot
fire 50% of the hard core liberals on their staff and start fresh.

Could you make that around 75%?

;-)

20 posted on 09/22/2004 3:51:39 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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